2. Justin Frankel, creator of Winamp and Reaper

Justin shares how he created Winamp and sold it to AOL at age 20 and tells us about his current project, digital audio workstation (DAW) Reaper. Segments [03:16] The genesis of Winamp [11:07] Winamp whips the llama's ass [14:06] Nullsoft [16:27] Winamp as a platform [23:16] The business side of Winamp [24:11] What was it like to work at AOL? [27:06] Why Justin doesn't use streaming services [30:03] Justin's website [32:06] Why Justin created Reaper [35:48] Shipping v1 of Reaper [37:02] Reaper is built by just a few people [38:53] Cross-platform codebase [40:48] Reaper as a platform [43:42] Future of Reaper [44:40] AI in Reaper [47:09] Questions lightning round [53:36] Book recommendations Show notes Where to find Justin Mastodon — [email protected] Justin’s website Ask Justin Frankel Books Masters of Doom by David Kushner Nona the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu Catch-22 by Joseph Heller Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions by Edwin A. Abbott Podcasts Interview with Justin on the Internet History Podcast Software Winamp Reaper Do you love audio podcasts? Try Metacast podcast app at ⁠https://metacast.app⁠. Join our Reddit community at r/metacastapp. Get in touch! Send us an email at [email protected] Subscribe to newsletter at ⁠https://www.buildersgonnabuild.com⁠ Metacast: Behind the scenes - "build in public" style podcast and newsletter at ⁠https://metacastpodcast.com⁠

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