Taking Stock: Can Big Tech rivals be trusted to develop safe AI?
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Erässä Čääriporin lomahotellissa on kotiin lähdön aika.
Huuhuu! Kotta kiinni saat! Ei, ei taas! Haloa tule takaisin!
Varaa talven paras loma nyt ja säästä jopa 200. Cäärepor. Lomia, joiden etsoisi loppuvan.
On tässä jani Liga Kosketa muu anna muutus tässä jöni.
Onni on hetkissä. Varaa syksyn onnenhet edullisemmin. Sokoshotels.fi ja Sokos Hotels sovellus.
Hello and welcome to Business Daily from the BBC World Service. I'm Will Bain where we're taking stock of a business week that feels a lot more like the start of a sci-fi film.
AI in general is good. I don't think it will be the end of civilization. Talk to anything about anything and it will end civilization. Always has.
There's gotta be some kind of truth to it.
It is being developed at a very alarming speed.
Trust the general public to take complete civilization annihilation in their stride in a park in Washington there. Um, our guests this week on the program are Rima Rachman. Uh Rema is the White House and politics editor for Bloomberg Government in Washington DC. And Kathryn Kielos, author and columnist for the Swedish financial broadcaster EFN, is joining us from London where she works through the week. Hello guys, thanks for being on the programme.
Hi. Hello, thank you.
Rima, did you have a more uh perhaps dramatic take than our very calm BBC listeners who are there in a park in Washington D C responding to everything that was coming out from the big AI firms this week?
You know, I think there's a kind of general consensus sort of joking about it, but also thinking, well, you know, if that's the case, then kind of shrugging their shoulders at it and thinking, Well, maybe I'll skip the gym today and have that cookie. Why not?
Well, that's the thing here, Catherine, isn't it? And it's really well summed up in that sort of fifteen seconds or so we played of people where They're trying to brush it off, but they also are a bit like, uh, maybe if it is really serious, well, exactly as Rima says, Well, I can't do anything about it.
Yeah, and I think the headlines are a bit confusing. And you see anthropic researcher believes more than ten percent's chance AI could quote kill all humans, end of quote. I mean, I think you do think how did they land at that number? You know, it's very specific. Why ten percent? Why not go for ten point four? Uh I I think it's k hard to to conceptualize, but I mean obviously from a European perspective I mean we we like to regulate things here. Yeah. And uh the European instinct is, you know, if the people building the technology are themselves telling us there is a non-zero risk of losing control of it completely, then perhaps governments shouldn't simply say, you know, well the market will sort this out.
So and that's probably reasonable reasonable, but I also think Europe needs to understand that AI is not a toaster. I mean, we're very good at product regulation, but this is not something that you can check at the factory gate.
What are the biggest AI safety warnings coming from industry insiders?
Oh this is safe. um and just send it out. It's it's a different thing. And I think all of these unknowns make it hard for for people to to grasp these risks and and therefore they brush it off as we heard in the parking lot.
Well we're gonna get into all of that there. The risks, the potential for regulation, what everybody's saying about it on this edition of Taking Stock from Business Daily. Yeah, welcome back to the programme. As we say, it's been the story of the week. The increasingly loud, sometimes pretty stark warnings from inside the AI industry, which I guess has been the unusual bit about it, about the dangers AI might already and in the future be posing towards us. It all started, if we take you right back to the weekend, three of the biggest names in AI: Elon Musk with his SpaceX company and Grok Chatbot, of course, Sam Altman of ChatGPT, the owner of OpenAI. Joining calls from the boss of Claude Maker, Anthropic, Dario Amade, to slow development of AI to allow regulators to catch up a bit.
That was quickly followed by claims, as Catherine was just mentioning, from one of Anthropic's former staffers, Jacob Coxon, telling us here at the BBC at the weekend researchers were genuinely frightened about the speed of its advancements and what it could mean for humanity.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–3:14
2
What are the biggest AI safety warnings coming from industry insiders?
3:14–10:02
3
How are regulators and governments responding to AI risk warnings?
10:02–15:32
4
Why does Europe argue for stricter AI oversight than the United States?
15:32–20:56
5
What bipartisan political alliances are forming around AI regulation in the US?
20:56–25:32
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