Chapter 1: What led to Ariana Madix's appearance on Call Her Daddy?
Daddy gang, I am so excited because Ariana Maddox is our guest on Call Her Daddy today. If you are a fan of the reality show Vanderpump Rules, you know exactly who Ariana is. You don't need any preface to this interview. You're ready to dive in. But for those of you who may not be familiar and have never watched the show, I got you. I get it. You're stressing out.
You're like, I can't watch this interview because I'm not going to know anything. I don't know the backstory. Daddy gang, I got you. I'm going to break this down for you so you can follow along and also enjoy this episode. So here we go. Vanderpump Rules is a reality television show that is on its 10th season.
Naturally, with reality shows, there's been tons of emotion and drama throughout the years. And there have also obviously been hookups, breakups, and cheating scandals. Which brings me back to my guest today, Ariana Maddox. Ariana stars on the show alongside her former long-term boyfriend, Tom Sandoval.
And let me be so clear, when I say long-term, Daddy Ying, I don't mean like, oh, they've been going steady for a couple years. No, no, no. I mean they were dating for nine years. They bought a house together. They have dogs together. They were planning on freezing embryos together. And they plan to spend the rest of their lives together.
That is until Ariana found out that Tom had been cheating on her for nearly seven months. And Daddy Gang, he wasn't fucking some stranger or some chick off of Instagram. No, it is truly everyone's worst nightmare. He was cheating with one of Ariana's closest friends and fellow castmate, Raquel. a huge betrayal, as well as a complete and total blindside, but also fucking classic, right?
The boyfriend and the best friend are cheating. Awful. This affair has been secretly happening the entire time season 10 was being filmed. and no one knew. But now, as we've seen, the news has leaked. Everyone is dying to see how this drama continue to unfold.
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Chapter 2: How did Ariana discover Tom's affair with Raquel?
Somehow a new story is new every fucking week on this shit. And we've obviously seen glimpses. Almost every single castmate has spoken out about this. They have gone on podcasts, news channels, radio. I mean, this is everywhere. Even CNN and the New York Times have reported on this cheating scandal. Apologies have been posted. Sides have been taken.
Everyone is extremely shook and extremely invested. But the one person that we have not heard from in long form and the most important person that we need to hear from for a sit-down, in-depth interview is Ariana.
I also want to point out obviously this is such a noisy scandal and everyone's like excited to hear I just want to remind everyone this is Ariana's life this was her relationship this was her best friend and when this happened at the time it probably felt like her world was turned upside down so even if you don't watch reality tv that's okay because unfortunately
This episode is extremely relatable because it's about cheating, betrayal, dishonesty, manipulation, and heartbreak. So Daddy Gang, I'm excited to give you Ariana, and I'm excited to give her a space to open up and speak about this and have a really open, honest conversation. So here we go. Let's get into it.
what is up daddy gang it is your founding father alex cooper with call her daddy hi hi ariana maddox welcome to call her daddy hi thanks for having me how are you doing I'm okay. Can you explain what the past few months have felt like to you?
A roller coaster. I mean, truly like the lowest lows, I think maybe ever, maybe since my dad died that I've experienced. And then I wouldn't say the highest highs, but I would definitely say that there's been like some really amazing bright spots. And it sometimes feels like,
don't know like a ping-pong match in between those two extremes right I have a tendency to like compartmentalize a little bit with emotions it's the Virgo moon in me but it's weird because also sometimes when I'm like oh my gosh I'm doing I'm feeling good like things are really positive then people on the internet will be like why is she must have not cared they're like mad at me and
for like healing, but then they like, you know, but that's the thing is it's like, everyone's always going to have an opinion about like how you should live. Totally.
Something I want to talk about is like, I think so many people have had something to say for so long about this scandal. And like, we haven't really heard from you about like start to finish in long form.
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Chapter 3: What were Ariana's initial reactions to the betrayal?
And so I went into the bathroom at Tom Tom. I went into one of the stalls. He had not changed the passcode on his phone. So I knew. And that's the other thing is like we knew each other's passcodes. We knew each other's.
So it felt like if you were going to be the type of person who is going to have an affair or be cheating or hiding things, you wouldn't also be so readily giving of your stuff like that. And so I looked in his messages. There was nothing weird in his messages. And I was like, OK, you're being dumb, you know. And then I opened this camera roll. And then that's when I saw what I saw.
And I like busted out of the stall. And there were like some girls in there that were just kind of go to the bathroom. And I was like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. And then because I didn't didn't go to the bathroom and I thought they're going to think I'm leaving the bathroom and not washing my hands. I was like, I promise I didn't pee or anything.
I just and then I just ran out of the bathroom and went straight up to him. And he was like, oh, hey, do you want to go smoke a cigarette or something? And I was like, yeah, I do, actually. And it's funny because there's a photo of him that I've seen, like used in articles and stuff. And it's from literally the moment I was walking up in his arms like this.
And I see that photo and I'm like, that was literally like the moment before. And then we went and then he was very, we went straight out to the back behind Tom Tom. That's when I confronted him. What the fuck is this?
Okay, pause for two seconds. Yeah. I feel like no one is saying specifically what the video is. Are you guys not legally allowed to be talking about what the video is? I don't know. Axie can, I don't know. Can I say what I'm speculating? Yeah, I can say.
Sure.
I think the speculation is in the camera roll there was a screen recording that he screen recorded while they were on FaceTime of them having FaceTime sex that that's what I'm thinking and I think I know is what it was but you don't have to confirm but just to give people context that may have no idea about this drama yet I don't know how you would you live in Iraq but that so you view something like that yeah can you just take me back in the stall it's
Bring me to the moment where you come across realizing he's cheated on you with Raquel. What were you thinking in the stall?
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Chapter 4: How did Ariana cope with the emotional fallout from the affair?
Full body, just like, I don't know if it's anger, shock. I think shock is a big part of it.
because I mean I've been cheated on in my life before and I've you know caught somebody before like that and like way in my past and I guess it's like that feeling I hadn't felt in like we're talking like 15 years and like it's hard to describe but it's literally like a combination of shock and anger and somehow disbelief that this is like truly what you're seeing um And yeah.
And then like there's just I don't know. It's really like a huge mix of emotion. It is.
And like, did you think. this was a one-off or did you immediately think this has been a relationship?
I mean, there's no way that it could be a one-off given the closeness of like all of our relationship to her. You know what I mean? So there's, there's no way. And also to feel so comfortable doing that on a FaceTime, you know, there's no, there's just no way of, of it being like a one-time, oh, we just decided one day to FaceTime sex.
Yeah.
Right. Drunkenly. I'm like, who should I call? Well, I'm going to call Raquel and just like, yeah, yeah, no.
Right.
Yeah. So you start confronting him. What does he say?
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Chapter 5: What insights did Ariana share about her relationship with Tom?
We should get him in here. I know. I remember at one point we stopped and got a pack of cigarettes. Because I was like, I want to just, I want to drink it on a chain smoke. You know what I mean? Of course. I'm like, one of those nights. Like, please. And he went into the gas station. And I was just in the car with the Uber driver at that point. And I was just like, are you hearing this?
And the Uber driver was like, yeah, man, this is crazy.
i was like whoa but like give me five star girl yeah like it was so you get home and this is the part i think i've seen the world be so fascinated because you guys live together you own a home together so you both go home that night and is it just like a screaming war till like you fall asleep essentially yeah do you sleep in the same room no no not at that point no so you sleep in a
What were you thinking?
Oh, I mean, well, I made sure to text close friends of mine and of his because I was like, I am not going to be in a position where and luckily because of the Sheena of it all, like at least I was like, no, we're not keeping this a secret.
Other people knew.
yeah so i was making like texts were slowly trickling like what is what is happening are you kidding me i mean i didn't sleep i mean i didn't lay down to sleep until maybe like 6 a.m that was how long we were like going at it i guess and he was just mad at me pretty much the entire time
That's also when I've been cheated on. It's like when someone that has been keeping a secret for so long gets called out, all they've been doing is lying. And so I feel like their natural response is lean in harder to like trying to gaslight you, trying to distort your reality, like trying to make you feel crazy somehow and like not take accountability.
And somehow you're like, how are we fighting? How are you yelling at me? Like you fucked my best friend.
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Chapter 6: How has Ariana's perspective on her mental health changed since the scandal?
which has happened before people being like, okay, I heard a little something about something, but I'm going to bring it up because that's our job is, you know, we bring up everything that we hear about. And a lot of times it's nothing. And I was like, well, if it's nothing, I'm not going to have like my friend and my boyfriend be like dragged through the mud.
I get what you're saying. It's almost like being on reality TV for so many years, you become almost more accustomed to This is obviously for content. This is for the show. This is for the show. This is drama. This was like you're not actually going to believe that kind of shit. So if it was genuine, it would have come off camera.
Right. Or would have. Yeah, it would have been a friend who's like, I'm going to end up bringing this up on camera. But I need to tell you. But I need to tell you first because I think it's actually real. And I think that that's something that like my close friends would have done. OK, so I got it. Yeah.
Okay, I do want to take a step back because as much as we're talking about like in the weeds of like this affair, you were in a relationship for nine years with this man. And you guys were friends before you got into a relationship. What was it that first initially attracted you to Tom?
I just thought he was so earnest in everything that he did. And I found it really like endearing that he would be over the top in making a cocktail or over the top in just everyday parts of life. Like I thought it very endearing and sweet almost. And I also thought he was a really good friend to the people close to him. And I thought that that was a really good quality.
How would you have described your relationship with
tom to someone i would have described it as like we used to call each other like apocalypse buddies you know like the person that all shit goes to hell and this is a person that you can rely on that you want with you who's going to continue to like make you laugh and get through all of what life has to throw at you and like honestly even right up until me finding out about this affair like even during while the affair was going on
We were still like laughing together, you know, having like our little, we had so many like little inside jokes and things like that. And I mean, if you were to go through like either of our camera rolls, you would see just like so many, even during the affair, amazing, fun memories together.
What was your sex life like in the beginning and then like as your relationship progressed?
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Chapter 7: What does Ariana reveal about her life after the reunion?
okay, well, do you like, you know, people have said that they think I have a nice ass. I don't know if I agree with that, but do you agree with that? Do you? And he would like be very turned off by the idea of me like being like, can you, do you like,
Like that part of me or like what are the you know right and I think that it wasn't coming necessarily from a place of like he didn't like my body I just don't think he knew how to express or maybe that's just a disconnect there and like yeah love languages or how to like.
click in that way because I get what you're saying but I also to any fucking guy listening to this it's like when your partner is so clearly being like I need some reassurance I don't know the last time you've given me a compliment that's also like a hey wake up like you want sex well why would I have sex with someone that I don't know the last time I felt like pretty in front of me like can you objectify me maybe like call me fucking hot right or like he would say things like
oh nice outfit when I was naked or changing he'd be like nice outfit and I'm like I get the joke but like that's not it's not connect that's not gonna like no really get me there something that really pisses me off is when men try to justify their cheating by being like but we weren't having sex like I need to get my fix somewhere and like It's so often that women are deemed as the problem.
And of course, a guy went and cheated like you weren't having sex. But it's like, but why weren't you having sex? And so was there ever a point where Tom or like the situation as you kept hearing it, like we weren't connecting, we weren't physical. Was there ever a point where you were questioning? Was that your fault?
I mean, I think in the past I would have been inclined to do that. But because I had been in therapy for years at that point, I knew. And couples therapy with him, by the way. And the couples therapist literally sat across from both of us and said, this is a him problem. This isn't a you problem.
you know there's certain things I have to take accountability for in the relationship but when it came to stuff like that it's like no this is something that he's going through that he's dealing with and don't take that on yourself like just please don't because it is my inclination to be like I'm not enough you know we all have that lie that whatever the big lie is that we all tell ourselves mine is the not enough lie and the therapist was like please don't do that right this actually has nothing to do with you yeah
I know hindsight is obviously 2020 and it's like you can look back and try to but like were there any signs of red flags in the beginning of the relationship that you now see?
I think in the beginning it was like you know he likes to go out a lot. And I thought that that was just like the phase of life that we were in. And I would have thought that nine years later we would be in a different phase. I think I'm in a different phase of my life. I still like to go out and have fun. I go to festivals. I party. I have a good time.
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Chapter 8: What are Ariana's hopes for the future following the affair?
And I remember specifically one session because we would do joint and we would do separate. And in my separate sessions, I was doing inner child work. I was sobbing with her. I was I mean, I felt like I was making leaps and bounds. And he even said, oh, we went to couples therapy and our relationship got so much better. Right. But like it's like, well, duh. Right.
Right. Like it's almost like a little counterintuitive that if he actually had the intention of ending it with you, why the fuck are you going to couples therapy?
I remember even saying after one of them, I was like, OK, so there was a session where it was it got really intense it felt like maybe we were ending and at the end of the session she was like okay so is this you know a breakup are you guys and he was like no so that's where it's like
i i don't i don't know can you do you mind sharing like when when you guys are fighting like because obviously you're not fighting about the affair what were your issues in the relationship my issues is that i felt like he was not choosing me over like random nights out or that he just wasn't coming home like he would want to just be at schwartz's for no reason well now you know
Just, you know, having beers and whatever or coming home. And then, you know, I'd wake up and I'd be like, where are you? And I would like go down. He's just downstairs like. Having face time sex. Smoking cigarettes and probably, but like, you know what I mean? It was just like the absentee boyfriend without, and the, I have to do this for work.
I have to, you know, it was just everything was coming before me and before the relationship. And I felt like, and I needed that connection and that stuff, all that stuff in order to be
physically intimate and I knew that physical intimacy was something that he was saying he was lacking so I'm like I don't know how I can meet you where you need to be when I'm not being met where I need to be like how do we figure this out right it's almost like you both couldn't it was a circle it's like no but come home earlier he's like no but like I'm miserable because we don't have sex you're like but we need to hang out in order to have sex and it's just like it like what I said on the show I was like I can't teleport
your dick into my vagina from the bar because if you're at the bar and i'm at home like i'm here you know maybe i'm ready and you're just not there so how do we do this right like we can't actually physically do this if you're never what like exactly exactly so yeah so tom did mention on that howie mandel podcast like things did shift you started to make an effort like what did you making an effort in his mind do you think look like
I think I just was doing my best to be present and going out with him more and trying to be more fun party time gal. You know, I was just trying to be, I don't know, like fun and hot. I don't know. Right. Dude.
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