Join Alex in the studio for a rare sit-down interview with Camila Cabello. Camila reflects on immigrating to the United States from Cuba at a young age and how singing was essential to helping her make friends. She talks about her childhood shyness, rise to fame, and how she initially only went on X Factor to meet Harry Styles. Camila spills the tea about her Turks and Caicos trip with Drake and opens up about why she is loving her single era. Then, Camila and Alex have some great girl talk about first loves, red flags, and when to try again with an ex. Camila sets the record straight on whether or not she and Shawn Mendes gave their relationship another shot, why she supports break up sex, and why if you want to text your ex… you should. Finally, Camila dishes about her new music, the inspiration behind her writing process, and how this album is for the girls! Daddy Gang, this episode is so fun and you will truly get to know Camila Cabello like never before… Enjoy!
Chapter 1: What does Camila reflect on about her childhood?
Like so many empty chairs for like Christmas dinner or whatever. It was like some like lyric like that. But I think that's such a like visceral image that I can remember. It's like a lot of noise. And then it was like just me and my mom. Why did you guys move?
think it was just the situation in Cuba was getting more and more difficult like lack of there was just like such a ceiling like as far as like you know my mom was an architect and even if you had a good job there was just like such there was like not a lot of resources like even like food medicine education like
I don't think a lot of people know, like, the situation there is, like, really, it's pretty tough, especially right now. Like, there's, like, there's not a lot of food. I have family members that have come even, like, a month ago that are still coming. And, you know, they see, like, the food that we have, like, in, you know, in the pantry.
And they're like, we're just, like, not used to this situation. And I think that's like what's amazing, too, about Miami and the community there is like I think because everybody has those common like start from nothing thing, like it really is like, hey, like if you don't have a job, like I've got this uncle, I got this cousin, like you come work for me. You don't know how to do this.
Well, it's fine. I'll teach you whatever. And everybody's just kind of like helping you.
each other helping each other and also just like helping each other improvise and we're constantly like trying to like bring our our family over so I think even when you were saying that like six or seven age I think at that time the new age six or seven yeah new age six or seven I came when I was six or seven when you were six or seven I'm thinking about you moving to having to go to a new school moving to a new country probably not completely speaking English oh no not at all at all
I mean, no speaking. How did you make friends? Like, what was school like?
I really made friends. It's crazy to think about. Like, in hindsight, I made my best friends through music always. I was always, like, you know, my first friend that I made, her name was Giselle, and we lived in, like, an apartment complex. She lived in the same complex as me. And we bonded over, like, the Cheetah Girls. Oh. I wanted to be them so bad.
And I loved like, you know, Cinderella like that. It's actually crazy how much I am realizing a lot of these things came to be. I was going to say you manifested the shit. Yeah, I know. I really manifested the shit out of like my fucking life. Then you were Cinderella. Yeah, I know. And I was in a girl group.
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Chapter 2: How did Camila's family background influence her career?
And I remember like this one friend that I had, like my best friend, we would like, I remember during the summers, we would like, we would be on the phone and we would like just be singing on the phone. Like, oh my God, I did like this. That riff sounds so good. Like everything was honestly really tied to music.
So you knew from a young age that you like loved performing.
Yeah. I loved – I wouldn't even say performing because I was really, really shy. I was like almost – it was like really reserved for my friends. And I remember my friends even say now, they're like, remember when we used to be like, sing, sing? Because I don't know if that was a thing for when it was your age. But I feel like anybody who was like –
had like a good voice in school yes it was like it was kind of like sing and at the time it was like it was in such like good faith that people were trying but meanwhile the person that is gonna have to sing feels like fuck all of you i don't want to sing so if i was to ask any of the kids that went to your school that weren't your friends.
Like, okay, Camila at 15 years old is going to become a huge pop star. Yeah. Famous. What do you think they would have said?
There were people that were like, I didn't even know that like she sang. Stop. Cause I was just, I was, I went through different, phases. Like I think there was with some people that I was really funny and class clowny and whatever. And then for most people, I was really, I was like really shy and shy.
Okay. Let's talk about X factor. So I'm reading online and I'm like, wait, is this true? I'm like, you said that you went on X factor first to just meet one direction. This is, this is true. I I mean... Tell me the plan. Like, what was the plan going in there?
I mean, honestly, I was a huge... I don't know if... I'm curious if you were too, but I was like, you know, like, I was like such a big pop culture fan. Yes, yes. Since I was young. And my friends and I really bonded over that. Like, we didn't love fucking One Direction. We loved One Direction. We loved One Direction. Yeah, we loved One Direction. We wanted to fuck One Direction.
I mean, at that age, we just wanted... I wanted to just kiss them. A kiss. Like, just anything. But, yeah. Even if... at an early age, I wasn't like, I want to be a singer because I think it just wasn't even a thing that I thought of. Like, it was like, bitch, how? Like, you know, like, how will this be a career? Yeah. Like, I don't have anybody that knows anybody.
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Chapter 3: What was Camila's experience like on X Factor?
Yeah. I mean, like when I remember when we were at X Factor and they started like calling our names up, I was like. I know this fucking story. I have seen it.
Obviously, there was a lot of drama when you walked away from the group. Yeah. And now that like time has passed and you look back at everything, like how do you feel about how everything went down?
I feel like I'm like can really... focus on and remember the really joyful times. And, you know, I grew a lot in that group. And I remember waking up on tour and going to my hotel room at like 7 a.m. and going to my garage band and like writing songs because I didn't want to like you know, do it while everybody was there. And I just like I had such a passion for that turned into writing.
And at first I was like, oh, maybe like I want to write for other people. But then it turned into like, no, actually, like I want to sing these songs by myself. And I started just like distancing myself from I feel like the group vision. And it felt like, you know, they were still like really passionate and into that. And so I just was like, I'm still like not I'm not happy here anymore.
Like it doesn't feel aligned.
I think also like that's so OK. And I think there's two parts of it. One, people can look back and be heartbroken that something breaks up. So understandable. Similar to One Direction.
Of course it is like, oh, my God. Yeah, it is.
It's kind of necessary to grow. It's like any breakup. Like, yeah, it sucks.
Yes.
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Chapter 4: How does Camila feel about her relationship with Shawn Mendes?
But it's addictive.
But it feels so good and terrible at the same time.
Because when it's good, it's so fucking good.
Because when it's good, it's like, you could cut my leg off today. I will be smiling all teeth.
But when it's bad, and I think this is what's so interesting. When it is bad, and I think back to those type of relationships, there's something that makes you feel...
even more romantic about it because it's like we're fighting we're working we're like totally it's just it is kind of convoluted and there are some relationships that take a lot of work to then get to be good or there are just a lot of relationships that just shouldn't fucking work but we put so much into them because it is addicting
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Chapter 5: What is Camila's take on break up sex?
And it really changes, I feel like, as you age. I feel like when I was younger, so many relationships were like my projection of people in my head. And I really romanticized the shit out of them. And I really took a little thing that they said and I just ran with that.
You know, but now I find that it's like the people that you meet that are like really exciting and how you have real chemistry with it's really is rare and hard to find.
It is so fucking hard to find. I find like the first couple hangouts, you will kind of be able to just gauge like if it's there because I'm not someone that's as much of like a slow burn type of person.
I am not a sober and what sucks is that I hear that that's the healthiest thing it's like I've heard podcasts or where people are like if you kind of like this person and if you're curious just go on a second date and I'm just the kind of person that's like if I am not like going to sleep like wanting to have you inside me like I I get it honestly that's extreme maybe not that but if I'm not if I'm not like if I don't leave the date and I'm like
wow it's really hard for me to have that slow burn approach but I'm trying to be more like that I think it's just I agree I also just want to validate you because it's not extreme what you just said I think when I've left first dates you want to like I know it sounds fucking crazy but this is a girls girl podcast so everyone girl will get it you leave and you can like literally quickly go through like picturing yourself in like positions with them and places will not well positions physically and like places in life and just like
kind of quickly the next year with them and you're like picturing like the next date and your sexual chemistry it's disgusting you can kind of envision it and then if i can't with someone it's hard to go on the second date i know but a lot of people say like you should and you know and fuck us yeah i know i know like god damn it it's interesting but so you're i love it i am yeah yeah yeah what is single camila like
What is single Camila like?
Okay. I try to really prioritize that part of my life.
Okay.
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Chapter 6: What insights does Camila share about her new music?
No, same. If I'm making decisions all day and I have to be like on my fucking like whatever. Daddy shit. Unironic daddy boss girl shit. You better come correct when it's time. And let me just not think about anything. Like, I want you to like, fuck. I want to let go and surrender. Right. What is your philosophy around ghosting? Are we ghosting people? Are we not? No, I don't like that.
I mean, I actually had a conversation with my friends the other day because I went on a date with this guy.
Okay.
One date.
How did it go?
Not great.
Okay.
Yeah.
my god yeah okay and so but they're not like right he wasn't famous why did it not go well it was just so boring like there was no spark no i was like i was thinking about every other ex yeah like i was just not happen that's the fucking worst when you're like or just or just the number one on the roster oh
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Chapter 7: How does Camila approach dating in her single era?
I don't know. You start. Give me an idea. I would say, like, I think when I look back at past relationships, something that comes up for me is, like, feeling insecure around him. Ugh! Like... Big. Big. You should never feel like, oh, my God, I don't want him to see me in the morning if I have, like, a breakout or, like, if I... Do I look good enough for this date?
Or, like, if I'm on the date, is he looking at other women? Like... When you're with the right person, you would never think that way. And I think that is something I would ignore in this one relationship I had where I was constantly feeling like I wasn't good enough. And it's like, why? Like, I am.
Yeah, I think that's a big red flag is like how you feel. Like, that's just such a big temperature check in relationships. Like, I've been in relationships before where I'm like, if I am...
miserable for this long yeah there is just something off and some every time I've been like it's me it's me it's me it's me oh my god oh my god it's my what is it what am I oh my god blah blah blah but it's like a lot of the times it's like it's It's just not right.
I agree.
It's not right. It's like if I feel so much better when I'm not with you and then when I'm with you, I feel miserable and overthinking and anxious every time, then we are just not right. And then I think you kind of keep going because you have this like –
hope or some ideal of what the relationship is we can work on it we can this we can this we can that and it's like sometimes it's like you have to temperature check like yeah just like it's not right it's not right have you ever been cheated on i actually i'm lucky to say i have not been cheated on it's amazing i know that's amazing maybe i i really don't think this counts but i was like 17 talking to a guy but i don't think that counts have you ever had someone go through your phone oh
That's a yes. How did you see them checking it?
I had deleted some texts.
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Chapter 8: What was it like for Camila to collaborate with Drake?
What was going on? You know, I think it's like what we were just talking about.
Yeah.
We were just like, hmm.
Yeah. Yeah. And you know, it's crazy because- I just like, I'm kind of like impulsive in that way, I would say. Like I feel like if I feel it, I say it. And I'm not really good at not doing that, like I said, because then the worst place for it to live in is my mind. And then I'm like, you know, Ryan Gosling in the notebook building a house for this person.
So I would rather say it and see what happens and then wake up the next day and find out that it's been heavily documented. I just like went, I opted for that route. But, you know, but it is what it is. It was a great route. It was a fun time. It was a fun moment. And, you know, and I will always care about him and love him. He's such a good person. Yeah.
And I'm lucky, you know, because some people have exes that are awful and, you know, and he is not. He's a really kind, good person.
When you rekindle something with an ex, I've done it myself. I find, and I don't know if this is for you, I find the second breakup is always a little bit easier than the first initial. Because it's kind of already been over. Yes. Then you try to rekindle again. How did you guys make this huge decision to be like, okay, we're moving on?
I think it was just like... it wasn't even like a decision. I think you just kind of are like, yeah, this doesn't really, it's not a, it's not a fit. It doesn't feel right. And I think luckily, you know, I was in a place in my life where it took me less time to realize that. Like it took us both less time like to be like, this doesn't feel right.
And we don't really need to like try so hard to like make it work. Like it's all good. Like this is not feeling good. Like let's be friends. I love you. I love you. It's all good. Let's move on. You go do your thing. You go do mine. Become the person that, you know, that you're becoming and I'll root for you. And that's it.
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