Jackson White: Toxicity and Tell Me Lies
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy. Jackson White, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
Thank you.
How are you doing?
I'm doing good.
As if we haven't like asked that question like nine times before we started this.
Yeah, yeah. We've been like hanging out for a second before we started recording. Guys.
Was I the most high maintenance?
What was Jackson White's experience on Tell Me Lies?
You're not high maintenance. No, no, no. I'm just dealing with a lot right now emotionally because I just watched the finale last night. Oh, that kind of thing. And so like I'm just trying to process like you as you and all the girls came up and they're like, oh, he's like really charming and he's like really nice.
Yeah.
And then like watching Steven last night.
I know.
And so it's like a little bit of a mind fuck to be sitting here with Steven DeMarco being like, should I be scared? Like, what's the vibe? Do people come up to you on the street and call you Steven or Jackson?
All the time. It's mostly Steven.
How do you feel about it?
I'm excited for it to be not to get to the phase where it's your name. It's a great honor. to be a great character, but I'm super stoked for my own name to be said. But now I'm, yeah.
Jackson represent.
It's one day, but it's cool. I'm Steven now. I'm Steven.
When I think about Steven, I feel like he's kind of the antithesis of the America sweetheart, you know? Can you kind of just try to explain to us what it was like playing a literal sociopath? Like, how did you get into that character?
Yeah, that's a great question. I mean, it started... It started, as it always, just very simply. You just try and be truthful and enjoy the character and learn him. And then he turned into this absolute garbage fire of a guy. But at the beginning, it was really fun. It was like, why does he do what he does? And he was a complicated guy in a complicated relationship. And it was really fun. And then the writers just turned him into a... He's the... Worst.
He's like one step behind like a serial killer.
That's what I've heard.
He's right there.
He's baby serial killer.
Yeah, he is. I feel like it's funny to watch online. A lot of people have talked about how there are these like mannerisms and the posture and the way he walks and the hands in the pockets. Like, is that something that you also do in your normal life? Or did you create that for this character?
So he... It's both. Like there's... Do you have good posture? Are you scared of me?
I'm not scared of you. I'm just... It's a rewiring of the brain.
Yeah.
Because I just binged it.
Yeah.
So I've been watching you.
By the way, I do have bad posture. But it's not like... I have... I'm a drummer. Okay. And my whole life I was like this. And then so my back... got like the hunchback yeah but i'm working on you know you go you you work on it i didn't go to like theater school and learn the the breath in the back i didn't do that but i'm working on it so what about the eye contact thing did you work on that for steven you kind of like don't blink oh that's yeah there's there's there's isms in there that that they're fun how do you prep for that do you like look at yourself in the mirror and do that uh no that'd be crazy or would it be like amazing that'd be nuts i don't know he's he's he has a lot of um things half are mine half are invented i don't know it's kind of a combo of both
But he's very physical. Like he's definitely a different physical. He's a different walk. He has a different thing. He's very like calculating and still and he moves kind of like that.
Yes.
Except when he's like angry and then he'll walk different. There's like a lot of stuff that I tried to like play with.
We love him.
He's a shark. He's a, do we? I don't think so.
No, I'm just trying to like.
You're just trying to like make me feel better. Yeah. It don't, it don't placate me. It's fine.
It's a lot.
He, he's a, he's a, yeah, it's hard to like that guy.
I read that you, and I don't know if you still do this, but you used to watch every episode of Tell Me Lies like four times.
How did Jackson prepare for playing a toxic character?
You could go from like hating to then loving your performance.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:01–0:28
2
What was Jackson White's experience on Tell Me Lies?
0:28–4:32
3
How did Jackson prepare for playing a toxic character?
4:32–15:04
4
What are Jackson's thoughts on the series finale of Tell Me Lies?
15:04–51:02
5
How does Jackson feel about his relationship with Grace?
51:02–56:19