Claire Byrne Recommends: Never Have I Ever

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What is the premise of the podcast 'Never Have I Ever'?

Claire Byrne 0:00
Hi, I hope you've been enjoying your Clare Byrne Show podcast this week. If you've liked what you've heard here, you might also be interested in my brand new podcast, Never Have I Ever. The series launched earlier this week and my first guest was psychologist and author Katrina O'Sullivan. Take a listen.
Katriona O'Sullivan 0:22
A lot of people don't want to write a book. They want to be seen and heard. So this is you telling me you have imposter syndrome? Yes. There was no way that the joyrider was going to want to go out with me if he thought that I was a bookish girl. I just don't think we can do it all.
Claire Byrne 0:40
No, it's really hard. We haven't come very far, have we? No, no. Never have I ever. Never have I ever. Never have I ever. Never have I ever.
Never.
Claire Byrne 1:02
There are certain things people talk about doing all of the time. Running a marathon, learning Spanish, taking up the guitar. And writing a book is definitely one of them because people are forever saying, my family are mad, there's a book in them or the things I've seen. Honestly, somebody should write them down. But when you really think about it, writing a book is actually a very strange thing to do. You're not just writing stories. You're deciding what to reveal, what to leave out, what belongs to you and what you're comfortable handing over to other people. And I think that's the bit that just might stop me giving it a go. Just the raw honesty of it. It's putting the people that you love and yourself, of course, under that kind of spotlight.
Claire Byrne 1:50
So this is Never Have I Ever. It's a brand new podcast from Newstalk where I admit to something that I've never done and I meet somebody who has done that thing. So this week, Never Have I Ever written a book. But Katrina O'Sullivan has more than one, in fact, and they are massive bestsellers, hugely successful. And Katrina, you are very welcome to Never Have I Ever. Thank you for having me. This is exciting. You're my first guest. Yes. Never Have I Ever hosted a podcast. Oh, wow. And here we are.
Katriona O'Sullivan 2:21
Whenever have I ever been on your podcast before? There you go.
Claire Byrne 2:23
And I've been on a lot of podcasts. I know you have, but this is going to be different, you see.
Katriona O'Sullivan 2:27
It is.
Claire Byrne 2:28
I'm determined. Yeah. You describe yourself as a psychologist, a storyteller and a survivor, but you're also an author, right? Two really best-selling books at this stage, Poor and Hungry, which is just out and riding high. But do you feel like an author? Because I have a perception of an author and I'm not sure that I fit into that category. Do you?
Katriona O'Sullivan 2:48
I think this last, say, six months or so, especially since Hungry came out, I'm leaning into the idea that I'm an author a lot more than I did before. It's kind of a bit up its own arse, I think. Sorry, but like...
Claire Byrne 3:03
No, I agree with you. And I think that puts the fear of God in a lot of people. In some people. Some people are quite happy to be up their own arse.
Katriona O'Sullivan 3:10
When you're in the author gang as well, like they talk about being authors and there's like layers of what's a good author, what's a good book genre as well. So there's a lot of kind of hidden judgment about the type of author that you are. But I am an author and I am a good one.
Claire Byrne 3:31
Now, before we go any further, I should probably tell you a little bit about Catriona. Born in Coventry to Irish parents, she grew up in the shadow of addiction and poverty and was homeless and a mother while still a teenager. Finding her way into academia here in Ireland at the age of 20, Catriona went on to become an academic and the author of two bestselling memoirs. But Katrina has a wonderful way of cutting through all the titles and the achievements. In her own words, she's still just a mouthy girl who likes asking questions, telling stories and challenging the status quo.
Katriona O'Sullivan 4:06
especially with Hungry I love that people like the story but I what I love more is when people say I really like the way you write that for me confirms to me that I am an author and I'm a good writer so yeah I'm leaning into it more and I'm writing another book and I've written a kid's book and that is coming out next year I'm so excited about the kid's book I really I'm so proud of it

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