Queuing at passport control could be no more!
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Queuing at passport control could soon be a thing of the past. New technology is being trialled in Dubai and it would mean that you could walk seamlessly through immigration without having to show a passport or even a boarding pass. Here to tell me more is travel correspondent at The Telegraph, Simon Calder. Simon, this all sounds very futuristic and otherworldly. Is this a case of AI strikes again?
Well, look, actually, it's been going on for a couple of years in various parts of the world. What's different about Dubai is that they are kind of looking at the whole airport holistically and working out how they can basically register your details so you don't ever need to show your passport or even a boarding pass to people. But the idea that passport control can be done by using facial recognition, which is
How could Dubai’s trial let passengers walk through immigration without passports or boarding passes?
fundamentally depends on AI, has actually been around for, as I say, a couple of years and is working extremely well, for example, in Indonesia, where an awful lot of people will go to the Hajj in Saudi Arabia, they come back in their thousands. Now, that would take a long time to process. But if you've got facial recognition, then you can literally just let them walk through and the system is working out who's who and if somebody isn't identified. um then they are kind of taken to one side but uh it's even been used across in manchester um just for flights involving british passengers and again um you know the government in the uk has all their uh passport photos so they know what they look like and if therefore if they sort of see oh here's simon calder yes we've got his um
photo on file they will let you through and actually talking to the head of borders in the uk he said it's great but the problem is um we quite like having a border because it allows you to assess passenger behavior when they get to the border um in other words if you have got some ill intent for example that might be picked out by an officer um rather than just uh letting you breeze through. But I mean, it is the future. And all the queues we're seeing across Europe for British passport holders because of the new entry-exit system, they will in time be gone. But it is a tough old summer for a lot of people.
Yeah, I'm thinking about leaving Dublin Airport, you know, and you can either go and have your passport physically checked or you go to one of those machines where you scan your passport, they scan your face and you're released. And often I used to find going to get it physically checked was actually quicker.
Oh, sure. Yeah. But neither of those will happen in future. I mean, the AI powered facial recognition is really just a kind of an improvement on the old idea of e-gates. And all an e-gate does is basically look at your passport photo. which is embedded in your passport, the details of your face, look at the image in front of it, do a few calculations and say, yeah, there's a high enough probability that that's Simon Calder, so we'll let him through. Or indeed, as the old saying, if you look like your passport photo, it's time to come home. Quite often it doesn't work for people. But I don't know if you've been recently to the U.S., because they are using facial recognition like never before.
How does facial recognition and AI already replace passport checks in other countries?
And quite often you will just simply turn up. They will not even bother to look at your passport. They'll just say, oh, welcome back.
And tell me this, in advance of travelling, do you have to register your passport or something? Or how do you ensure that the airport has access to that information?
Well, yeah, certainly the idea in Dubai is that you will register all your passport details and your travel details. So they will be in the words of James Bond villains expecting you when you turn up. And that hopefully will make life easier. But there's also, in the rest of the world, there's very smart stuff going on. But unfortunately, it doesn't always work perfectly. And a 70-year-old lawyer from Milton Keynes was in Bali where they've got very effective e-gates, but it wouldn't let him through because he was wearing a T-shirt of David Bowie.
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