Clark Fredericks is a motivational speaker, author, and advocate who survived horrific childhood sexual abuse by a former Boy Scout leader and Sheriff, Dennis Pegg, in New Jersey. Today, Clark joins us in the tent to discuss his upcoming book “Scarred: A Memoir of a Childhood Stolen and a Life Reclaimed” which will be releasing on July 29. Clark walks us through the timeline of childhood tragedy, vengeance by stabbing and killing his abuser, recovery, and advocacy. Welcome to Camp 🏕️.“Scarred: A Memoir of a Childhood Stolen and a Life Reclaimed” will be available at all major retailers starting July 29, 2025. You can also pre-order your copy now through Amazon or Simon & Schuster.Shoutout to todays sponsors: Cymbiotika, Odoo, Magic Spoon, Evil Goods, Morgan & Morgan, and Bluechew.Cymbiotika: Go to https://partners.cymbiotika.com/CAMP for 20% off your order + free shippingOdoo: odoo.com/CAMPMagicSpoon: https://magicspoon.com/campEvil Goods - Subscribe and save 30% off on beef tallow! : Evilgoods.com/CAMP👕🧢 GET YOUR CAMP DRIP HERE: https://campgoods.co/🏕️ Get Today In History Email Here (Free): https://camp.beehiiv.com/🎟️ 🎫 Comedy Tour Tickets Here: https://markgagnonlive.comTimestamps:0:00 Intro1:40 Clark’s Childhood6:45 First Time Meeting Dennis Pegg12:48 Stranger Danger16:16 Tactic’s Used By P3dos21:20 The Sunfish Experiment24:17 Dennis Forcing Wrestling Matches With Clark33:40 Dennis Get’s Clark Drunk & Takes Advantage36:31 Getting Sexual Abused By Dennis40:46 How Different Is Life49:58 Dennis Taking Prisoners Home To Abuse Them54:46 Advice For Parents Who Suspect Abuse1:00:00 Struggles In College and Adult Life1:10:55 Other Traumatic Events In Clark’s Life1:16:08 Seeing Dennis at a Bar1:18:48 Clark’s Obsession With Fire1:20:40 Going Into Debt With The Mob1:40:24 Killing Dennis Pegg1:53:05 What Could Have Been Different? + Dennis’s Other Victims1:56:07 Dennis Continued To Abuse Kids1:58:11 Immediately After Killing Dennis + Getting Arrested2:15:17 Finally Accepting What Happened 2:25:40 Trauma Produces More Trauma2:27:49 Earning Respect In Prison2:33:41 Getting Out of Jail + Coming To God2:46:39 The Manipulation of Abusers2:50:56 Anyone Can Be An Abuser2:52:29 Advice For Abuse Victims2:53:58 Clark Reconnecting With The Love of His Life
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?
I go up to his door. We got into a violent fight. He slipped in the blood that was both of ours on the floor. And I looked him in the eye, and I said, it's not so fun with little boys now, is it, Dennis?
Chapter 2: What was Clark's childhood like?
And I split his throat. This is Clark Fredericks. He's an advocate, an author, and the most badass Boy Scout of all time. He became known as the man who stabbed and killed his childhood abuser. He writes that from 8 to 12, he and several others were sexually and psychologically abused by their Boy Scout leader and sheriff's officer, Dennis Pegg. But this story isn't one of vengeance.
It's a story of redemption. Clark will tell us about his childhood trauma. He will also explain how to keep your kids safe from abusers. And if you yourself have childhood trauma, how to deal with it and cope in a healthy way that doesn't lead you down the same destructive path that Clark has followed.
This is your opportunity, dude. So my advice would be open up lines of communication, you know. No matter how upset or disappointed you are with your child over their destructive behavior, there's a reason for it. Find out what that reason is.
This episode is absolutely amazing and Clark is a true survivor. This is a topic that not many people talk about and a lot of men like to push down. But Clark has been brave enough to share his story, everything he's learned from his healing experience.
to meditation, to his spirituality and his relationship with God, and ultimately how he's a better person today and an advocate for children that have suffered abuse at the hands of the powerful within their community. So sit back, relax, and welcome to camp. Clark Fredericks, thanks so much for being here. Mark Agnon, nice to be here, bro.
Thank you so much for coming all the way from Westchester.
Yeah, not that, I left with plenty of time and made it here in less than an hour, so it wasn't bad.
Well, I appreciate it. Thank you so much. I'm really, really excited to talk for a few reasons, but I also just want to put a disclaimer to anyone that's listening that this episode might be, at moments, a little heavier than some of the other episodes we've done.
Yeah, there's some heavy stuff, bro.
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Chapter 3: What tactics do abusers use?
you know, as soon as you could learn how to ride your bike, be gone and be back at dinner time. Right. Like six years old, like, like there was no cell phones, there was no computers. So the parents didn't want you around the house. They wanted you out getting dirty and, and, you know, doing whatever.
Tired and come home, go to sleep.
That's it. Yeah. And, uh, you know, I, I grew up in a real rural area of New Jersey, a town called Stillwater. Um, It just lived at a lake community. So like, you know, all the kids, you know, would go down to where there was a dam, you know, that separated the lake and then from the river, you know, the river started at the dam.
And just fishing, and there was ball fields, basketball courts, tennis courts, playgrounds, just like everything, you know? So everything, everybody congregated down by the dam area. There was beaches for the lake.
And what was your family dynamic like? Like, what did your parents do? What were your siblings doing?
Yeah, my father, you know, we were a middle-class family, you know? money. I don't recall ever being a real issue. My father was a salesman. My mother worked at the high school in the library. I had an older brother, older sister. On paper, everything looked well-adjusted. My father wasn't a regular drinker, but when he drank, he drank to get bombed. He got sober the last, when I was like 17.
So the last, I don't know, whatever, 15 years of his life or so, he was sober. And would he get angry? Nah, nah, I wasn't an angry drunk. Just getting bombed, man.
Yeah, just tossed.
You know? Yeah.
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Chapter 4: How did Clark cope with trauma in college?
Right. Whether, you know, a relative, uncle, coach, something like that. Yep. So I think that is another thing for parents to be aware of is that, look, of course, have a stranger danger, use, you know, sense, but also keep an eye on the people that are within the sort of inner or close circles. You have to, dude.
Like, it's always... And it's... You know, the coach that everybody loves or the priest everybody loves or the teacher everybody loves.
The police department.
Who's more safe, the lieutenant in the sheriff's department?
Yeah. And I think predators also are aware of this, which is why they assume positions of high authority. Like they will become priests and they will become lieutenants and they will take on these positions within the society that have high moral standing because who would ever suspect? Right.
And that's my assumption is how cunning and evil these people are, is that they're trying to find ways to basically wear morality while doing the most deviant act.
They hide in plain sight. Right. And they hide behind their role in the community. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And even after I got arrested, we'll get into why. Yeah. He was a member of the Historical Society in our little town of Stillwater. And all the old ladies, you know, were quoted in the paper. He would never have done something like that. He was the nicest man in the world. Yeah.
During your historical society once a month meeting, maybe. But as soon as he left that meeting, it was back into hunting mode.
Yeah, of course. And then also I think this idea that evil people are evil all the time. I think there is a perception that the pedophile or the abuser is this guy with a creepy mustache in your window and he's got a trench coat. That's not the case. These people, like you mentioned, are evil. upstanding of their society. They're well-liked. They have people around them. They have community.
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Chapter 5: What happened when Clark encountered Dennis Pegg again?
Had you drank them?
And he would always, you know, have candy and gum to give me and, you know, make sure I don't have anything on my breath. Ah. Yeah. And so just one of the times going to his house, you know, let's try wrestling. Let's see how tough you are. And, you know, so he would allow me to, like, Be the aggressor on top for a little while, I guess, till he got hard and excited.
And then it like and I've heard this from so many other victims of abuse where like the eyes would literally change. You could see his eyes dilate and become dark and just his presence got dark and his everything about him changed. And so many other victims, you know, like people I'll interview, they'll be like, and then their eyes changed. I'm like, you too?
And like, and I've heard that like countless times. And his eyes change and he becomes the aggressor and not realizing it then that he has a heart on, but, you know, would get me pinned to the ground and then gyrate on top of me. And, you know, it wasn't until I looked back on it when I was older, like, you know, what he was doing. Of course. Yeah. So it progressed to that.
And in these, like, wrestling matches, I mean, you can call them that. It's abuse. But when you leave them, did you feel like you were abused? Did you feel violated in a way? Or did you think, like, oh, that was sort of an awkward, strange thing?
Yeah. Yeah. Because I wasn't putting two and two together with the hard-on, you know, the erect penis and what, you know, what he was doing. Right. You know, just like... You know, not trying to look any more into it than like, whatever, you know.
So you were still able to operate in daily life without this baggage necessarily on your sort of your primary conscience.
Yeah. Yeah. It was at 11 and 12, you know, like things progress, you know, like it's like I said, he's spending years with me just to go from touching the scar to... to now wrestling matches with a hard-on. And over that time, he's showing me pornography.
When does that happen?
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Chapter 6: How did Clark's trauma affect his relationships?
Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, they have no shame, these predators. Like, no shame at all. And I chug my beer and I'm like to my friends, we got to go. Let's get out of here. They're like, we just got here. I'm like, there's no women here. We're going to go hit another bar where there's women. I'm driving. You can either stay or we're going. You know, like, very forceful. Like, let's rock and roll.
Like, I'm not staying here. They're like, all right, whatever, bro. And, you know, they chugged their beer and they're like, you know, busting me like, what the fuck, dude? What the hell? And like, got to get out of there. I dated a girl in my late 30s and 40s, and I don't even recall this, but we were headed to our friend's house together. for a party.
And she said, we were at a stop sign and Dennis Pegg came and made the left to come up alongside up the road by us. And I just went nuts and started spitting and punching the steering wheel and cursing. And she's like, what are you doing? I'm like, Dennis. And she's like, Dennis who? And I'm like, Pegg. And she's like, what about him? I'm like, he's a scumbag. And he just went by.
She's like, all right, all right, calm down. And she, you know, says I proceeded to get bombed that night. And, you know, she had to drive me home and stuff, you know, but I don't recall that.
I mean, it's strange how even just the sight of someone can trigger those feelings internally, like your blood running cold, your heart starts to beat, like, you know, that sensation just from the proximity to the person that caused this. And I'm sure that's probably what you felt, that feeling of like just a full body rush, anger, all those feelings flooding back in one moment.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, it's like ripping the Band-Aid off and, you know, that wound is there, you know, like I'm keeping a Band-Aid on everything. Um, you know, but I've never addressed that wound.
Right.
You know, so that wound's there.
And it's building.
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Chapter 7: What advice does Clark have for parents?
I went on this unbelievable run in the casinos. And I don't say this to brag, just like... I just was like fearless when I bet. And, uh, I, I had a suitcase with hundreds of thousands of dollars in it. Uh, the casinos, uh, like my biggest win was I, I won 152,000 and I had been up way over that. And then I lost, lost, lost. And then I had 152. I'm like, you know, all right, I'm out.
But I was up, you know, quarter of a million. Um, And then you're getting all the perks. I'm going to the suite at Giants Stadium. They're like, you want to go see the Giants play the Eagles down in Philly? We'll send a limo up to you. You know, you don't even have to gamble. Like, I'm like, all right, cool. You know, I'm going out to Vegas. You know, they're paying for my airfare out to Vegas.
I had a convention in Palm Springs. You know, they're like, I will fly you, you know, from Vegas out to Palm Springs. Suites. Biles of Kettle 1, Dom Perignon, just whatever you want. They would give me shopping sprees in the casinos, like the stores. Every piece of clothing I had back then had an insignia of a casino on it. It's just like all my clothing came from casinos.
And how do you feel in this window?
Money was meaningless to me. It was just a tool for me to use. to not deal with my shit. Like I had no respect for money and thus why it would come and go. And then I got to the point where I couldn't even wait for the weekends to go gamble. Cause you got a five day stretch where your pain is like rearing its ugly head and you're just feeling uncomfortable.
So it's like, I start sports betting with the mop so I can do that every day of the week. And within six months, my hundreds of thousands are gone. I had two stock things that I had opened up with money. I also got investigated by the IRS criminal bureau for money laundering for all the cash I was putting into my account. um, you know, a full audit on that.
Um, just, you know, like my life is like, just, it's just, it's, it's a train wreck.
Problem after problem.
Yeah. And, uh, you know, so I, I, I'm bankrupt in six months, sports betting with the mob and I'm in debt to them for $77,000.
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Chapter 8: How can childhood trauma be recognized and addressed?
Like the boss has the killers and they can't go to the boss about you because they probably weren't turning in your bets.
And they've been skimming off the top.
They were skimming that. So they can only push you so far unless they want to try to do something themselves, but they're not usually that type of person. And it just stopped. And whether these guys got killed, whether they got arrested, what happened, you know, that was 25 years ago. And after like six months of just daily, weekly calls, threats, that last phone call, you're a dead man, click.
I never heard anything again. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Now we talk about feeling trapped, right? Those, those, those were like the worst years of my life. Like that period.
Well, that period from, I mean, that must've been triggering so much.
Oh yeah. Yeah. Cause they, they, they, they made comments. They were going to send guys up to me, you know?
And I mean, they're using fear as a coercion tactic and you can't tell anyone and we're, we're going to come get you. Like it's all the same playbook.
You know, like, I didn't want to die, but I just got to the point of, fuck, whatever, man. It's just like, whatever, you know, whatever. My life is shit anyway. It's been shit since I was a kid. So whatever, you know, it's like whatever they're going to fucking do, whatever, man. You know, that's sort of the mindset you adopt.
Yeah, it's an interesting feeling. I've heard people say that before. That's not the desire to die. It's just not caring if you live or don't.
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