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American Horror Story: Charlie Kirk’s “Shining” Disciples. | Candace Ep 288

13 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: When did Charlie Kirk's organization shift from capitalism to faith?

0.031 - 9.871 Candace Owens

All right, you guys, let's get started. Happy Monday. You are not going to believe it. You're not going to believe it. You probably will believe it at this point because all of it's so unbelievable that we now believe it.

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Chapter 2: What role did the Falkirk Center play in this transformation?

10.572 - 33.97 Candace Owens

Last week, we obviously brought you a pretty explosive episode wherein we discussed Liberty University. Because when did Charlie's organization make a sudden switch? Suddenly everybody's discussing faith as opposed to his initial goals focused on the free markets and capitalism. When did Charlie's organization turn into a church?

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34.456 - 58.603 Candace Owens

Well, the answer, as we went backward, said it began with him creating the Falkirk Center. And now I am going to reveal to you what exactly happened with the Falkirk Center. Obviously, scandal. Scandal which I now believe could have led to the fall of both men, actually, Jerry Falwell Jr. and Charlie Kirk. Plus, later on in the show, Megyn Kelly is saying no to the Israel lobby bullying.

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58.724 - 98.233 Candace Owens

She gave a powerful statement to Tucker Carlson, who has just been declared an enemy of the state of Israel alongside little old me. I'm not kidding. Welcome back to Candace. Where should we begin, you guys? Let's just say that there have been a lot of misguided PR operations since Charlie Kirk's assassination. And I think that that is putting it mildly, right? A lot of PR blunders, so to speak.

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98.253 - 120.999 Candace Owens

Let's see, there was an operation, he wasn't Catholic, curious, followed by operation, Candace hasn't spoken to Charlie in years, followed by operation, LOL, Egyptian planes, ha ha ha ha ha. Followed by Operation Debunk Mitch in Fort Huachuca with baby mama drama. Huachuca mama drama. That was a lot.

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122.201 - 144.75 Candace Owens

And I guess what I really mean when I use the word misguided is that whoever is in control of these operations... has a bit of a lead foot. You know what I mean? Too much gas on the pedal at all times. The immediate force that's being applied to these psychological operations, they go from zero to 100, has sort of made the panic behind them pretty obvious to us, the public.

144.81 - 153.9 Candace Owens

It feels like there is someone who has a lot of money to spend, but maybe that person who is in control of spending the money happens to be an idiot.

Chapter 3: How did Megyn Kelly respond to the Israel-first crowd's attacks?

154.387 - 174.953 Candace Owens

Like he's just phoning people up like, I'll give you $600,000 and have that money transferred in your account with Bitcoin today. If you just say these words, Candace has gone crazy. Charlie wasn't Catholic. Mitch is baby mama. He's a crazy man. Crazy. Everybody's crazy. The expression used in the UK that my husband uses is rich and thick.

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175.593 - 201.306 Candace Owens

That's used to describe a dumbass who has a lot of cash on hand, okay? Now, frankly, I have to say, in retrospect, the weirdest operation of all, which still persists today in little pockets of the internet... was Operation LOL, Candace has dreams. Why did she talk about her dreams? How dare she discuss her dreams? Only weird people have dreams and then tell others about them.

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Chapter 4: What scandals surrounded Jerry Falwell Jr. and Charlie Kirk?

201.346 - 219.197 Candace Owens

Dreams are ridiculous. They shouldn't be listened to. So the question becomes, who exactly is making these terrible PR decisions? Like who thinks, yeah, what we need to do today is we have to attack the dream. Just go at it and do not let up on the dream. I think I know the answer.

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Chapter 5: Who were the key players involved in the Falkirk Center's establishment?

219.538 - 243.198 Candace Owens

I think it's someone who feels personally victimized by the dream. Show of hands, who feels personally victimized by Candace Owens' dreams? And to be honest, it's sort of hilarious that I didn't put two and two together sooner, sooner than today. So let's go backward, okay? In the immediate three weeks following Charlie's assassination, I was obviously in a haze.

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243.578 - 263.397 Candace Owens

I'll be honest, I think I told you this before, but I was not sleeping, I was not eating, and I was having sex. incredibly vivid dreams. I began dreaming like I hadn't dreamed since I was a child because it was every night. And to be honest, it was overwhelming. I didn't like it. I felt like Charlie was haunting me. It stressed me out. I expressed that to my husband through many tears.

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He told me that I should consult a priest, which I did.

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Chapter 6: How does the Moonies cult relate to Turning Point USA Faith?

266.803 - 295.025 Candace Owens

And we spoke about souls in purgatory Anyway, today I feel that it is time to tell you the entirety of the repeat dream that I was having in those early weeks. It was actually a replay of an actual lunch that Charlie and I did have in the past. Back in 2018, Charlie and I went to Israel together. And in the dream, we were sitting in the exact same restaurant on a patio.

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295.145 - 307.826 Candace Owens

And Charlie began the conversation saying something that he actually said, a real memory from that trip. Charlie was sitting on the patio and he was eating hummus. He's like, this is the best hummus I've ever tasted in my life. A dramatic oversell.

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307.907 - 319.867 Candace Owens

I always feel there are certain places that people hype so much that when you go there, you feel like you have to pretend it's the best thing you've ever experienced. Otherwise, you sort of let yourself down. It's like, this is the best ever.

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Chapter 7: What are the implications of the relationship between Turning Point and Israel?

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And truly, I didn't love Israel. I didn't love it. even when I was a Zionist, because it felt dangerous. You could sense the Muslims hated the Jews. It felt like we were on a tour. People were sneering at us. I just didn't love Israel. I've expressed that many times in the past, but Charlie was getting into the character. It was the greatest thing he had ever eaten.

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337.018 - 350.646 Candace Owens

Anyways, the setting of this particular dream, however, had one dramatic difference. We were not there for the opening of the embassy. And this difference, by the way, I don't really understand yet.

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Chapter 8: What are the listener comments regarding the episode's themes?

350.666 - 368.748 Candace Owens

I'm just sharing it with you. Instead, we were there in this dream setting for Bebe Netanyahu's wife's funeral. Again, that makes entirely no sense. I've never met his wife. I've never spoken about his wife. I know nothing about his wife. So that's just the context of it. I don't make the rules of dream world.

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369.609 - 389.693 Candace Owens

And obviously, as we were sitting there, it didn't strike me as weird because when you're in your dream state, everything that happens for some reason feels like, oh, yeah, this is totally normal. Anyway, Charlie said to me, I don't have much time. He followed that up, explaining to me that I needed to see what happened on his left. And he told me explicitly, they betrayed me, multiple people.

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389.753 - 405.37 Candace Owens

And I said, I know, but who? Then came the frustrating part of the dream. Every time I would say who, you know when you're in a dream and you go who, or you try to speak in the dream and then suddenly you're actually speaking in real life and you start to wake yourself up from the dream by accident. That's what kept happening.

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405.951 - 428.473 Candace Owens

And whenever I would try to listen to what he was saying, it sounded like he was underwater. So I was frustrated by this. I can't get to the part where you tell me who betrayed you. It wasn't until the third week after his death that finally one face came through in this dream. It came through as clear as day around the corner of the restaurant. And it was Andrew Kolbets.

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429.989 - 445.764 Candace Owens

Now you have to imagine in the immediate aftermath of this, I was not thinking Turning Point USA, where we're at today is almost like unimaginable going back there. In fact, I was very friendly with Andrew Colvette. We had spoken extensively in the aftermath of Charlie's death.

446.004 - 466.03 Candace Owens

I've known him for years and I felt really weird about having seen him in this dream, but it was so vivid and it was so compelling that I felt that as weird and as odd as it was, that I had to text him and tell him what I saw. And this is the text just sharing with you so you guys know if this all really happened. I said, I rarely have vivid dreams, but I had one clear as day this weekend.

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Charlie came to me and he sat down. He told me that he did not have much time that I needed to know that he was in fact betrayed and that they are hiding what happened to my left. I believe his soul is in purgatory and I believe that you know much more than you've said publicly or privately. And Andrew Colbett never answered. It was the last time Andrew Colbett and I spoke.

485.998 - 507.226 Candace Owens

Now, of course, fast forward today and we learn that it's been Andrew Colbett orchestrating all of these attacks, actually. Not caught, right-handed. It's sort of ridiculous that I didn't just assume that earlier. Like I said, that's not where my brain went in the aftermath of Charlie's assassination. I thought, these are good guys who loved Charlie Kirk. The question I'm now arriving at is why?

507.326 - 529.2 Candace Owens

Why, if it was just a dream, why does it require so much effort on the PR front? Why are we mocking dreams, right? Maybe it wasn't just a dream. In fact, thereafter, what I can tell you now is that two people within Andrew's inner circle reached out to me and told me that I should look more into Andrew Colbert, okay?

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