Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Okay, everybody, Shabbat Shalom.
Chapter 2: What insights did Candace gain from her sit down with Erika Kirk?
I just want to say Shabbat Shalom to everybody back at home. Happy Hanukkah to our greatest friends and allies. And, you know, this is a good time to mention that Israel does have a right to defend itself. Tucker Carlson is Adolf Hitler. And TikTok does need to be purchased by the Mossad. It's just how I'm feeling today. I am not different. Maybe you are different. Welcome back to Candice.
Okay, you guys are crazy. You guys are absolutely crazy. The amount of people who attacked me for sending out a tweet being like, hey, I'm good, I'm alive. We had a very productive conversation and they were like, she got the call. She got the call. She's betrayed us. She's doing something else. I can't believe it. This has all just been a show. Calm down, okay? What do you think happened?
Erica said, stop. And then I was frozen for four and a half, four hours and 30 minutes, just like, as I just put all of these talking points into my head. That is not what happened. I keep telling you guys, I am not governable. I am basically akin to Kanye West. I never felt more seen than when he tweeted a lot of years ago, just fired my manager because I realized I can't be managed. That is me.
That tweet right there, I was like, oh gosh, yes, Kanye, that, I get this. Nobody is changing their mind, anything. How ridiculous would it have been if I'm doing all of this, investigating, asking all of these questions, and then Erica Kirk offers to answer some of these questions. And I'm like, no. I'm not going to go. I can't betray people. I don't want any answers to the questions.
I just want to ask them. No, this is the entire reason we are doing this. We've been looking at the situation going, why can't Turning Point USA just answer basic questions?
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Chapter 3: What is the latest hit piece from the NY Post about Candace?
And I can tell you guys that yesterday for four hours and 30 minutes, there were no rules. They said, you can say, you can ask us any question that you want, anything that's on your mind, which I appreciated. And some of you guys are thinking, who is they? Who is they? It's the Jews, obviously.
Chapter 4: How does Tim Pool criticize Candace's security situation?
Just kidding. Justin Strife. Justin Strife was in the room. It was just Justin Strife and Erica.
Chapter 5: What happened during the TPUSA live stream of Candace's sit down?
George joined me just for the beginning portion of the conversation because he had that thing going on that I told you on the 15th all day. He was in a conference. And then I brought my cousin, Mia. You know, the one that has a really bad attitude. I just bring her there for vibes. I think it just confuses people. They're like, I don't I don't understand what's this person doing here.
And the reality is she's like always just listening to Cardi B music. But she's my cousin and I always have her around. And so that was it. She was kind of sitting a little bit away. But at the table, it was just it was really just the four of us until George left. And I will be honest, I did not know what to expect.
Chapter 6: What are the listener comments and feedback on this episode?
Going into the room, I did not know if they were going to be open. I didn't know what Erica's energy was going to be like, if it was going to be more of an argument, if there was going to be legal threats. You guys were telling me not to drink water, so I didn't drink water. Well, I brought my own water, but I didn't drink that water, too. It was a lot. There's a lot going on, okay?
And the conversation started with Justin Strife saying, very sensibly saying, what are we looking to accomplish here? What is the actual aim of this conversation? And he was pretty clear and Eric was very clear that they were sort of most upset with what I obviously a bit of a fever pitch when I tweeted that it was a godforsaken company and people should not give money to it.
And I have to own that. That's aggressive. That is actually aggressive in the retrospect. I was very frustrated. And I don't know, I just I felt like we weren't getting any answers. And there were so many lies. And then I was getting attacked for asking all meaningful questions that was within their capacity to answer.
And I told you, I definitely my problem in life is that I can rise to anger very quickly. I shared with them that I really felt like I was under attack for telling the truth from the very beginning, like casually when I mentioned the Catholicism thing. Like, what was that about? I was like, look, I say something in a tribute to him.
Alex Clark and Andrew Colvette then jump onto a podcast and they're doing that weird interview, which is clearly aimed at me. And they've teased the interview. It's like aimed at me, but they never say my name. And that to me felt like it was the first time I don't know, the first bit of mud that was slung, which their answer for that was, hey, that was a really crazy time.
A new system had to be put into place. And by no means did Erica give any person the authority to go out and say that the Catholicism thing was a lie. It kind of turned into this big thing. Whatever. OK, that kind of obviously was not the meat of the reason that we wanted to sit down.
I will say I was immediately refreshed by the fact that one of the first things that Erica did was she owned the lies. The lies, or rather, I guess they would cage it as miscommunications that were coming from various people at the company. Like, look, this is a company with 650 people that are employed. Everybody at this time is exceedingly emotional and they are communicating.
And no matter what somebody says on Twitter, they assume that this communication has come down from management and that's not always a circumstance. But they owned right away, which felt great, that if you guys recall... We Erica sat down with Glenn Beck. I actually missed this portion because I didn't get to watch the interview in its entirety.
And we were pulling clips because a lot was coming out very quickly. But there was a portion that was going around that was viral. And it was Erica saying that she had Charlie's phone and that Charlie never texted anybody the night before saying that he thought that they were going to kill him. And that obviously reflected poorly on me.
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Chapter 7: How does Candace respond to the criticism from Tim Pool?
Like they have access to UVU cameras. So I was hoping to hear that. And I said that I want to hear why people feel so confident at Turning Point USA that Tyler Robinson is the guy. And at this point they elected to call the lawyer, like, you know, their, their lawyer who is involved in this case.
One of the lawyers that was involved in this case, there's always a team of lawyers, especially for something like this. And what I got from the lawyer was, did not make me feel that Tyler Robinson shot Charlie Kirk. It did not make me feel confident that he didn't or did shoot Charlie Kirk. I was very surprised by this.
Chapter 8: What does Candace reveal about her security arrangements?
He spoke a very long time. I asked, you know, can you share with me what it is? And I said, when you share this with me, I will not say what that thing is. That's if we want to protect the integrity of the case. I'm not going to if you say we've got the footage of him taking a shot. I promise I won't say that to the audience, but I will communicate to them that you have something that is solid.
And no, to the exact contrary, this guy effectively said, not effectively, he said that they have nothing but the affidavit. So what you have, what we have seen is what they have. What is being discussed publicly, you are this whole like non-expert problem with like, well, you don't know. It's like what you read. His messages that don't have any dates on it.
Tyler Robinson writing out everything in the clean alibi. That's what they have. And what he explained to me was that that's the affidavit stage. That's where that's where it's at. And then what takes place now is the investigation is ongoing. Right. So right now they're looking for more information. And once investigators, they could very well have obviously footage.
And that is why they might feel threatened. That we're definitely get this prosecution. But the reality is, is they don't actually share that information with the victim. They don't share that information with Erica. In this part of the process, they will not know what investigators have discovered. This is what the lawyer told me until May.
OK, they will not they have not seen anything that you have not seen is what I want you to know. So with that in mind, I'm sitting here going, why are you signaling? Why do I feel like the public's being gaslit on this? There's been nothing that's convincing. There are so many commentators who have gone out and said to you, it's overwhelming. The evidence is overwhelming. The text messages.
that don't have a date, that don't even sound real, that's overwhelming. That to me feels really fake and gay. I really do want to say that to every commentator that is out there trying to tell the public and insisting that if you say it enough times, it'll become real. You're actually just being dishonest.
And I offered that a more honest way to communicate would be to say, we think he's involved. We feel strongly. I've said that. I think he's involved. We are very hopeful that throughout this investigation, we are going to get that concrete thing. And that's where we're at right now. That's just the stage that we are at. That is not what we are getting from them.
That is like, I just feel like that's really important to let you guys know. Let the gaslighting stop. They have what you have, okay? There is nothing else. They are in an investigative stage. Erica has been named as the victim. They will know more in this May hearing, which is the probable cause hearing. That's what the lawyer told me. It's a probable cause hearing.
And that's when they will see the evidence. That's when they get to present the evidence, why they are going to stand there before a judge and be like, yes, we need to move this forward. It's not just an affidavit. We're not pulling together scraps. We have concrete evidence.
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