Operator-Led Private Equity at Ethos - Erik Brooks (EP.504)

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Erik Brooks 0:00
You would be sitting in a management meeting. If I'm asking a management team questions, there is this heaviness that exists. You try and break through, but just naturally exists where the management team, okay, here come the private equity folks. And the private equity folks walk in like, okay, here's the management team. The weight exists. You break through that and try and connect. Even in the best scenarios, my asking questions is a little bit of an interrogation. Asked in the nicest, most open way, it's still definitionally a bit of an interrogation. When Foddy would run the management meetings, it was a conversation. It was Fadi saying to the head of sales, When I ran business services for IBM in the Middle East and Africa, I noticed in some countries it was important for you to show up with multiple products.
Erik Brooks 0:52
In other countries, they really wanted you to specialize. I see you've set yourself up geographically. Tell me a little bit more about some of the reasons you decided to do it that way. That's two people speaking Portuguese to each other. And I speak Spanish. I'm getting a lot. There's a level of depth. There's a level of understanding. The information you get back is different. I know that because I've sat in hundreds of management meetings. Sitting in those meetings, listening to Fatih conduct them, and the answers that were being shared by the management team were just different. Better, they were deeper. Then add on to that, my interpreting the information is different than somebody who's been a CEO or a CIO or a CRO listening to the answers and interpreting it.
Erik Brooks 1:43
The quality of that interpretation is gonna be better. We don't make anything in our business. We don't make glasses, we don't make cars, we don't make cups. Our input to the process is not glass or metal, it's information. If the questions are better, then the information you're going to be getting is better. If you get better information, you have somebody who is more knowledgeable in interpreting that information, hopefully you're making better decisions. Better decisions lead to better results over time.
Ted Seides 2:19
I'm Ted Sides and this is Capital Allocators. My guest on today's show is Eric Brooks, the co-founder and managing partner of Ethos Capital, a middle market private equity firm built to bring seasoned C-suite operators into every aspect of the investment process. Eric's experience, prior to founding Ethos in 2019, spanned privatizations in Eastern Europe, value investing at BowPost, and 20 years at ABRIPartners. Our conversation covers Eric's path to private equity, lessons learned about risk, the importance of betting on people, and the evolution in his thinking that led to forming Ethos. We then cover Ethos' focus on durable business models, one deal-a-year cadence, operating system to evaluate and improve companies, and an investment example that brings it all to life.
Ted Seides 3:14
Before we get going, for the first time since 1999, the Knicks are in the NBA Finals. Twenty-seven years sounds like a long time. My twins are twenty and that feels like a full lifetime of parenting. Twenty-seven years is also half of my life. Or if you're counting a little bit less than half. But sometimes it seems like just yesterday. 1999 was the year I graduated business school alongside some amazing past guests, like Rodrigo Bittar, Matt Bouteen, Rodney Comages, Meredith Jenkins, David Lyon, Rick Heitzman, Alex Sasserdote, and Matt Spielmouth. When I see any of them, twenty seven years feels like yesterday. But there's another dynamic worth talking about. In nine years of doing the podcast, I've never once mentioned the Knicks.
Ted Seides 4:06
The Yankees scroll off my tongue. But mentioning these Knicks now easily puts me in the bucket of a fair weather fan. A Fairweather fan is one who only pays attention when their team is winning. And who doesn't love this team? They're up-tempo, team-oriented, and deep. I'm hoping they pull off a victory, even if it means both my sons get their wish of being part of a raucous celebration. A fair weather fan is often seen as momentum-driven and negative.

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