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Pamela Fuller - Overcoming Unconscious Bias to Allow Inclusion to Flourish

16 Sep 2025

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Pamela Fuller is a wife, mother, author, speaker and FranklinCovey thought leader on bias and inclusion. When she was asked the Change Starts Here staple, inspired by former guest Brad Montague – “Why do you love what you do?” – her answer was rather simple. As someone who works with leaders, she loves to feel like her guidance and effort are being multiplied by orders of magnitude throughout an organization and sparking waves of meaningful change. On this episode of Change Starts Here, host Dustin Odham was joined by Fuller to explore the topics of unconscious bias and inclusion, which can have a profound effect in education and beyond. “When you look at designing curriculum and content, there’s a way in which you have to do that to be in alignment with adult learning principles,” she said. “You have to create activities and design ways for them to discover. It’s more show than tell. But there was so much more to say about it. “There are so many different angles and ways in which you can think about the impact of bias on performance and, more important, what each leader, from wherever they lead in an organization or institution, can do to recognize those biases and mitigate the possible negative aspects.” Listen to the entire episode for more insights on how educators, leaders and more can work to recognize and overcome unconscious bias to promote inclusion and equity in their organizations or institutions.

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