How your super fund performed, housing Ponzi problems & Coles in the dog house
episodePreviously titled “How your super fund performed, housing Ponzi problems and Coles in the dog house” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 7, 2026
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How did your super fund perform in the 2026 financial year?
Kun mietin tulevaa, ajattelen minulle tärkeitä ihmisiä ja sitä, mitä haluan tarjota heille. Nordea Private Bankingissä oma sijoitusjohtajani auttaa tekemään päätöksiä, jotka kestävät aikaa. Näin perheeni pysyy askeleen edellä.
Hello, I'm James Thompson, Senior Chanticleer Columnist at the AFR. Welcome to our weekly news breakdown of all things business, finance and markets. With me today, as always, it's my Chanticleer colleague. He's not invited to Taylor Seuss' wedding, but he's always welcome here. It's Anthony McDonald. How are you, Anthony? I'll always be here, James. Chanticleer players gotta play, play, play. Very nice. Well, this week we look at how your super fund fared through the drama of the 2026 financial year. We explained why the end of what's been called Australia's housing Ponzi scheme matters more than just to house prices. And yes, we'll preview the celebrity wedding of the year. But first, Anthony, it's been a massive week for the great white whale of Australian capital markets, the data centre hopeful Firmus, which is absolutely steaming towards a share market float at the end of the year after signing a new deal with chipmaker NVIDIA to build a massive data centre in all places on an island off Indonesia.
Now, Anthony, this all sounds very exciting and maybe even a little bit mysterious, but But it's the numbers that remain eye-watering around this business. They're talking about annual revenue commitments of $30 billion, billion, by the end of this year when they might float. That's not bad for a business that doesn't run a data centre of any size yet, is it?
Big numbers, James. Firmus has always talked a big game, and the game it's talking just seems to get bigger and bigger and bigger. And, you know, most of us just get up in the morning, put one foot in front of the other. These guys are just shooting from the moon from the get-go. So, yeah, that annual revenue, you know, they're talking about maybe trying to have locked-in revenue of $25 to $30 billion a year, right? It's huge. But it's all based on the contracts. And they just did this massive one in Indonesia. Like you said, it will come online from next year about US $5 billion a year. Revenue could end up being a little bit more if Firmus can on-sell some of this compute to someone else. I mean, it's got this data center about to go live in Melbourne, the BK2.
It's got the first purpose-built AI factory in Launceston. There's probably a couple of billion dollars of revenue between them there. It's targeting a few more though, James. Like this huge one is in South Australia. It signed a power deal around it early this week, 600 megawatts. I mean, that's 60% bigger than what's in Indonesia there. I mean, it's also looking in New South Wales, elsewhere in Victoria. Let's see where it gets to. I mean, that $30 billion revenue number, it's a stretch, I know. And I know I wrote it earlier this week in a story and I'm not backing away from it. It won't be in its first year, but it's just how big it's trying to get, right? Like it's how ambitious it's trying to be in its pipeline and what it's doing.
But like I said, all the numbers around this are big. Like that contract in Indonesia, US $25 billion of revenue for five or six years. It's amazing. And that revenue is supposed to be from NVIDIA. It'd be great to see the actual details of that contract because you've got to be a bit skeptical about it just given the size of it. But the data center they're fitting out there will require $20 billion or so in capex, James. Like that's up front. That's to buy all the computers and the equipment. You think it'll be 80% or 90% debt funded. So, you know, it's probably a $16 or $18 billion contract. loaning that. How would you like to be on the hook for that sort of money?
Well, but in a way, Anthony, the numbers we're seeing out of Firmus, they match the numbers we're seeing out of this whole AI boom, don't they? Everything is just bigger with this stuff. They're not spending a billion dollars a year, the AI hyperscalers.
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