What does a youth soccer coach do when parents are not watching?This week on Chasing the Game, Liron is joined by Patrick Ouckama and Phil Gordon, whose coaching path has taken him from D.C. United to Nottingham Forest.That journey gives Phil a rare view of two very different soccer environments: the American youth system and the English academy world. The conversation keeps returning to something most parents do not always see clearly.Coaching is not just the session.It is the planning before training.The conversations after practice.The hard roster decisions.The scouting meetings.The staffing behind the player.The hours spent thinking about development long after the whistle blows.Phil talks about the dedication required to coach well, what changes when you move into a Premier League academy environment, and why staffing and structure matter so much in player development.For American soccer parents, this episode offers a useful look behind the curtain. Not because England has all the answers. Not because Nottingham Forest is a magic model. But seeing how another environment supports players and coaches can help us ask better questions about our own.In this episode, we cover:- What parents often miss about the work coaches do- Why coaching is much more than running a training session- How Phil’s path moved from D.C. United to Nottingham Forest- What the UK academy environment feels like from the inside- Why staffing, scouting, and support roles matter in development- The difference between coaching in the U.S. and England- How geography changes the academy experience in the UK- What American players bring, and where they can still grow- Why parent-coach relationships can shape the development experience- How families should think about college, contracts, and long-term pathways(00:00) - What Coaches Really Do (03:00) - Phil Gordon’s Coaching Path (06:00) - Work Ethic From The U.S. (09:00) - What Parents Don’t See (12:00) - Rosters, Playing Time, Hard Choices (15:00) - Parents And Coaches Together (18:00) - What Changed In England (21:00) - Staffing, Scouts, And Infrastructure (25:00) - Geography And Academy Options (29:00) - American Athleticism, European Technique (33:00) - Watching The Game Differently (36:00) - College, Contracts, And Choices (42:00) - What Has To Give (45:00) - The Dedication Behind The Job View full transcript

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