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Chat 10 Looks 3

Ep 293 - More Cowbell

26 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the hosts' thoughts on pickleball and cowbells?

0.031 - 12.504 Alice

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12.544 - 24.757 Alice

If you go to our website, chat10looks3.com, you will find all sorts of different ways that you could help us out, starting from $2 a month going through, I think it's about 10 is the maximum, but I don't know. Anyway, go have a look at our website. We would really appreciate it.

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24.777 - 49.572 Annabel

That's why we call her the details lady. This podcast, Chat 10 Looks 3, is recorded on the lands of the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We acknowledge them and their leaders along with the traditional owners of whichever land you're on listening to it right now. Hello, my glasses are fogging up. Do you get this a lot? I get it in the morning. Oh, that's interesting. Only in the morning.

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51.905 - 67.305 Annabel

Yeah. I mean, maybe it's some sort of mad perimenopausal thing, but sometimes I just get this feeling of deep confusion and uncertainty and I think, am I going mad? And then I realise it's just that my glasses have fogged up and I need to wipe them on something.

67.526 - 76.798 Alice

Mine don't fog up very often, I must say. I wonder what that causes that. Someone who's a scientist, please write in and let us know. I assume it's something to do with your body temperature being...

76.778 - 100.525 Annabel

different to the air temperature around you or something i've got no idea i just think it's because you are as cool as a cucumber like in prehistoric terms a saber-toothed tiger could jump out of the you know whatever at you and you'd go okay i have three ways to uh triangulate my escape here and i'd be just screaming and leaping into your arms firstly i'd do this so

100.505 - 114.34 Alice

Right. I believe I've got a few options here. For the benefit of people listening at home, I moved my glasses down the end of my nose and looked very authoritative. The tiger would have been very intimidated. Exactly.

115.782 - 124.611 Annabel

But we have both had a very large and odd week, really, haven't we? Because, I mean, I don't know. We both interviewed Michelle Obama, which was very cool.

Chapter 2: How did the hosts feel about interviewing Michelle Obama?

438.067 - 450.466 Alice

You've got to be joking. Oh, man, we've done it again. We've screwed up a famous line. Are you out of your mind? What is going on with this? Is that what he used to say? I think it's something like, I'm just going to Google John Maxwell.

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450.486 - 452.909 Annabel

Surely you can't be serious. No, that's the naked gun.

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453.45 - 458.939 Alice

That's the exact line that came to me as well. It is, you cannot be serious. You've got to be serious.

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458.959 - 478.584 Annabel

Yeah, you've got to be serious, man. He said that. You know that Jeremy used to work in a cocktail bar in Adelaide and John McEnroe came into this very crowded bar late at night and he ordered like maybe a Corona, like whatever, one of those ones that, you know, in the 1990s required a wedge of lime being jammed into it.

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479.164 - 503.129 Annabel

And Jeremy just had a basket of limes that were quite yellow and he, McEnroe, questioned like just said, that's not a lime. And Jeremy's like, yes, it is. It's just quite a yellow one. And then they were back and forth about it. Anyway, it's one of Jeremy's, you know, bartend stories. Was John getting aggressively upset?

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Yeah.

503.868 - 521.104 Annabel

Yeah, because he was, you know, questioning a lime ball, you know, call. A lime call. Anyway, I screwed up that delivery. Anyway, how many minutes are we on the clock now of not talking about the things we're going to talk about?

521.124 - 538.06 Alice

I'm through glasses, pickleball. I know. I think we should bowl it out. So we got to meet Michelle Obama last week, not together, separately. Yes. And I thought she was very much what's advertised on the packaging. She was smart, lovely, warm, friendly, very, very impressive person.

538.985 - 561.095 Annabel

Very funny as well. What I liked about her, I mean, like apart from the fact that, you know, she's sort of a bit goddess-like. She's taller than you and kind of looks incredible and is super just switched on. Like when, you know, she turned right around in her seat and was just sort of like bodily facing me.

Chapter 3: What is the significance of the 'More Cowbell' skit?

1227.41 - 1227.771 Unknown

My God.

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1228.473 - 1236.076 Annabel

Yesteryear. Thank you. It's about a trad wife. Now, do you know much about the trad wife movement? I do, yeah.

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1236.778 - 1238.102 Alice

Well, just what I've read in the paper.

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1238.825 - 1262.385 Annabel

Yeah. So the novel has an absolutely cracking premise. Like Trad Wives is sort of like an online movement, some influencers doing it where you kind of you're a married lady and you retreat into kind of old-fashioned gender roles within your marriage and you take pride in, you know,

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1262.703 - 1279.48 Annabel

scrubbing things by lamplight and, you know, doing smocking and, you know, growing your own root crops and stuff like that. And then you put it all and you wear kind of prairie dresses and bake your own bread and, you know, spend a lot of time with children, all that.

1279.46 - 1299.882 Annabel

And it's a big sort of weird, like there's a bunch of influencers in the States that make a huge amount of money out of kind of posting on Instagram and doing how-to videos and stuff. So this novel is about one of these influencers, a woman called Natalie, and the premise is kind of like on paper it's genius.

1299.942 - 1307.771 Annabel

It's kind of like she wakes up one day and she's in the actual frontier kind of period and so she has to do it for real.

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Mm-hmm.

1308.029 - 1325.937 Annabel

And I think what's happened with this book because the writer clearly sort of pitched it and it is a really smart premise because it allows her to kind of unpick all of these ideas about, you know, women's roles and what we idealise and what we perform for other people.

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