Chapter 1: How does Paul Gorton cope with newfound fame?
Hi. Hi. Do you normally have a picture of you before you come up, like you grinning?
Yeah, no, I just made sure everything that I sort of use now, I just changed all my pictures to make sure there's a picture of me.
Well, except for the one when you call me and it's a picture of Nomi that comes up.
No, I don't. I don't know why it's there. I like the idea of spending two hours making sure it's a picture.
Yeah. Well, can you change the one of you texting me? Because it feels like I'm texting Nomi. I don't know how to change that. So it says David Ells, and there's a big picture of Nomi comes up. Yeah, I don't know how to change that. I feel weird about it for some reason. Yeah, I don't know how to change it, mate. Oi!
Take a bow. Take a bow.
Do the bow. Do the bow.
Thank you, and good night. Fucking hell. Hold on. What is going on?
Can I just look at you, Paul, for a bit?
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Chapter 2: What is the truth about the turret on The Traitors?
Because if not, as soon as I got a pinch on the shoulder and you're sat there, you've got a blindfold on in pitch black, everything's gone quiet. And then you're like, how do I play this when I take this blindfold off? And I was like, I just have to be me what I was before. So I'm smiling around the table. Before it happened, I'm like this.
You know, giving everyone a smile, trying to connect with people. So then when my blindfold came off, I had to carry on smiling, connect with people's not changed. If I took the blindfold off and I was like this. It'd be like, oh, he was really like, he had a positive and nice face before that. Now it's this.
But that's so mad because then you just look at someone and you should have gone, Paul's trying, they might have just gone, Paul's trying to work out who the traitor is. It's so mad because you just, it's, everything's perceived mad.
But I said it at the table. The first thing I said after taking my blindfold off and everything we do is improv. It's so hard to actually think of something, whatever your kind of first strategy is, you kind Well, you're improv.
The traitors are improvising, but everyone else is being real.
Everyone else is being real.
It's bonkers.
I don't know where to start with all this.
Can I say one thing which someone said to me, which is so true? is you won the popularity thing, and it was really, we were talking about the edit and stuff, and someone said, like, they edited you, like, edited you a certain way to play a certain role, but what they mustn't have shown is all the interactions you had, which were, like, making friends and stuff.
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Chapter 3: What are the next steps for Paul Gorton after the show?
Because I think when people say, what do you want to do next? But, I don't know, it is bonkers. The show's not even over yet, and I'm only just watching... Escape to the fucking country, come on. Come on. I said deal or no deal. Yes! I'll take over Stephen next year.
Oh, poor old Stephen. He's already had it this season.
He's got a billion jobs, though, hasn't he?
He's probably already thought about that possibility. He's probably thinking, fucking Paul.
Do you feel like there is something in the air, or are you just like, what's happening now, or...?
No, I feel a bit like there's something that's going to come that might be great. So like I was on BBC Radio Manchester the other day and they said, why don't you come every Saturday and do like this on this hour slot and we'll kind of have some chats. It won't be traitor related. It will just be kind of like fun stuff and blah, blah, blah. And I was like, that sounds amazing.
Like, why wouldn't I do that? And then I like the Guardian. I think I'm going to write a piece for them about the traitors. But I think everything surrounding like presenting, I think you'd be great at it. I met Rick Edwards briefly the other day. I was on his show. Did he mention the pod? He was my first. Did he mention the pod?
I can't remember. It was only five minutes. Bloody hell, Rick. How much would it have hurt to have said, this all came through Chatterbix?
It might have done, actually.
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Chapter 4: How does Paul feel about his experience on The Traitors?
Which again is a huge risk because if we didn't get miles out and she said, Diane didn't say that, then she would have kept a traitor in the game.
Yeah.
So there's so many different intricacies of what's going on in that, you know, tiny moment.
If they offered you to go back in next series, would you do it? A hundred percent. Faithful. Even if they said you're going to be a faithful.
Yeah.
I'd like to see how, it'd be great to see how different the experience it is as a faithful.
Oh, it must be mad. But I would love next year, like there's loads of ideas that there's a celeb version that they want to do. There's an all-star version down the line.
I know. Not interested in celeb, no tension.
Yeah, and there's no tension. But I like the idea of an edited version of the traitors where you don't see the interviews, the one-on-one interviews. You don't see the turret and you don't know who the traitors are. You watch the missions during the day and you watch the round table. And then you have to say, because everyone goes, oh, I would have clocked you straight away. Yeah, exactly.
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Chapter 5: How does Paul Gorton cope with newfound fame?
I had a great joke. Are we all going to the same place? Poor old... Oh, yeah.
I was like, that is when I went, we're off.
Cemented.
Oh, he's the... That's a funny joke. Poor old... Poor Anthony's doubtful was because he was too chirpy at the station. Yeah, exactly.
This is it. And this is the whole thing that people got it so wrong when they're voting for traitors because they just went on personality. Oh, well, Anthony, you seem a bit stressed, actually. Oh, that's funny. I'm on a round table and I'm at risk of being murdered.
He did feel like he was thrown under the bus.
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Chapter 6: What does Paul reveal about the 'turret' question?
I felt like he was agitating people because he was playing the game.
But he knew I was a traitor. He called me out after the dungeon. Can I ask the elephant in the room? It's not an elephant in the room. Can I just say Paul's a traitor because he came back? It's not a secret. And then he was like the power of Paul, you know, like in the interviews.
Did that feel nice? Yeah, it did.
I sat there just like...
Because I did feel you got power. Like, did any of your, like, business, because I felt like you could not control meetings, but not meetings, conversation. Well, you could control, well, you are controlling me, the length of this pod, etc. But, like, I felt like you could control a conversation.
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Chapter 7: What are the next steps for Paul after 'The Traitors'?
Like, I can't do that. Like, you'd go, but what we need to talk about, is it? And then we'd go, oh, was that, like, work-related?
Yeah, it's just work. Yeah, I've had way more stressful situations than that. I've had people, like, calling me a liar, saying that I'm doing things that aren't meant to be done. Like, huge fast food chains saying that what you've built here is actually wrong and you're not doing what I want you to do in a board meeting. And then I have to go, no, well, hold on.
You want me to achieve X and that's how we can do it because, you know, there has to be compromise somewhere and blah, blah, blah. So like, yeah, every time you're in that room and also that's work. Like if I don't do this deal, do that, blah, blah, blah. I'm not paying bills and putting food in everyone's belly. So that's stress. But when I'm in the round table, I see it as it is.
It's super stressful. Obviously I got emotional when I'm there, but like, You can still kind of tell yourself it's a game. There's rules. Like, the character that I'm trying to do is based within... Like, it's not based in reality. So I can kind of do whatever I want as long as it's, you know, within the rules type of thing.
Chapter 8: How does Paul feel about the pressure of being in the public eye?
Can you... Like, obviously don't name, I don't know if it happened anyway, but can you see a scenario or were there contestants that struggled with the game, sort of psychologically? Oh, yeah. Did it play with their... Really?
Oh, I would say, I'd say most... Well, actually, I'd say... Molly looks like she struggles.
I mean, like...
Yeah, sort of emotionally. I didn't see too. Yeah, actually, maybe Molly got, I think Molly got emotional, but almost in the same way that I did. I don't think she struggled. I think she's a lot stronger than maybe she looks.
Ash looked battered a couple of times, we were saying, because there was one bit.
Oh my God, Ash, yeah.
She looked like she'd been 10 rounds.
Ash was in a troubling way. But everyone is exhausted. You don't sleep. Regardless of whatever time you got in or got up, most people didn't sleep.
Because it's so stressful. You slept better because you're a traitor. I didn't understand. They could really save people's anxiety by telling them that they're going to get told they're murdered before the night's sleep and be nice. Because everyone's like... I'll wake up and I'm not being murdered.
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