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S14 Ep 741: Bumping into David Olusoga and Behind the Scenes at Cats Does Countdown

26 Nov 2025

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Chapter 1: What nostalgic moment does Joe share about meeting David Olusoga?

37.021 - 43.708 Joe Wilkinson

Hey. Hey. How are you? I'm all right. I couldn't get my headphones to connect, so I'm just talking into the laptop.

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44.449 - 45.129 David Olusoga

That's all right.

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45.149 - 51.977 Joe Wilkinson

Sounds pretty true. Anyway, all right. Two in a hotel? Yeah, something weird just happened.

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Chapter 2: How does Joe feel about his emotional encounter with Colin Jackson?

51.997 - 62.067 Joe Wilkinson

What? I just bumped into David and the Traitors in the canteen. Well, at the same canteen, I spoke to Colin Jackson.

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63.042 - 64.965 David Olusoga

Ah, the Colin Jackson.

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65.385 - 68.51 Joe Wilkinson

The awful Colin Jackson interaction.

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69.972 - 71.675 David Olusoga

How was that, meeting him again?

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72.175 - 82.831 Joe Wilkinson

I got a bit emotional, actually. Like a weird sort of stronger reaction than I ever thought. I had such a nice chat with him.

83.532 - 85.335 David Olusoga

Like you shared an experience.

Chapter 3: What insights does Joe provide about the production of Cats Does Countdown?

85.555 - 100.656 Joe Wilkinson

Yeah, but also, I said to Pedro a couple of days ago, I might have said to you, what's weird? Because when you get kicked out, you then just get whisked off. You don't say goodbye. It's not like, you know, like if you're leaving anything else, you go, bye.

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101.365 - 120.006 Joe Wilkinson

He was just like, shoot, gone. So I realised the last time I'd sort of seen David was like... I was giving him it with full barrels, yeah. He was so nice about it. He said, you had such a good theory there. I was like, oh.

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Chapter 4: What challenges does Joe face when recording a live audience?

120.026 - 141.572 Joe Wilkinson

A couple of people I knew in the cafe went, ooh. Like, basically, didn't you try and murder David? I was like, yeah. God, how weird. What a weird... I know. ...odd meeting up with him. It was. But anyway, yeah, so I had a good chat with David. And I was like, he's such a nice bloke. And I was like, I realised I didn't spend enough time.

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Chapter 5: How do Joe and his co-host reflect on past episodes of the podcast?

141.613 - 165.587 Joe Wilkinson

You know, you go, God, it's like... Because there's so many people. David was one of the first people I chatted with, and I really liked him. But then you get, there's a bit of like, oh, I know Nick, and I know Joe, and I know Lucy, and I feel safe with them. So you spend a bit more time with them. And I was like, oh, I don't know, just a little. It's a little bit melancholic.

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167.589 - 170.653 Joe Wilkinson

I just wasn't expecting it. I put it on the group.

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Chapter 6: What humorous gossip do Joe and his co-host discuss?

170.794 - 173.357 Joe Wilkinson

And I said, I said, I felt quite emotional seeing David.

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173.388 - 177.714 David Olusoga

And what was that sadness again?

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178.455 - 179.216 Joe Wilkinson

Melancholy.

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179.957 - 180.458 David Olusoga

Yeah, why?

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180.918 - 201.987 Joe Wilkinson

Oh, just because, I don't know, you say shared experience, and I was like, not sad that I'd seen him sad, I was just like, not even sad, just like, oh, just it was a shared, oh, Christ. Do you not get frustrated when you can't explain yourself?

202.027 - 209.149 David Olusoga

You can't. Yeah, I do. Well, he's got a cracking podcast.

210.023 - 211.125 Joe Wilkinson

Yeah, oh yeah.

Chapter 7: How does Joe describe his feelings about the podcast's direction?

212.167 - 220.501 Joe Wilkinson

I had a chance to ask him what it felt like to be sat next to us in the charts. We were talking about it the other day. And you didn't. No, but I could have done it.

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220.521 - 228.094 David Olusoga

I suddenly thought I could have gone, David, your podcast is... You wouldn't have said that in the canteen, having just bumped into him again. I wasn't thinking about you or the pod.

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228.114 - 241.055 Joe Wilkinson

I was thinking about how nice it was to see David. How old is he? I didn't ask him that either. Did you eat breakfast together?

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Chapter 8: What final thoughts do Joe and his co-host share before wrapping up?

241.756 - 249.766 Joe Wilkinson

No, I was on my way out and I can't believe I'm looking up his age. 47? Did I say 47?

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250.127 - 250.527 David Olusoga

Yeah.

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250.567 - 252.57 Joe Wilkinson

55. That's good, isn't it?

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252.59 - 256.175 David Olusoga

He looks fucking brilliant. I bet he's done the gym this morning.

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258.698 - 265.647 Joe Wilkinson

Another thing I didn't ask him. But yeah, so I just felt, I don't know, I gave him a big hug and I loved it.

269.474 - 297.473 David Olusoga

yeah and that must be weird for you yeah i'm trying to think if i've done anything where i've been in a group of people at this crazy i've done anything the closest thing is just making a show and then not seeing them again yeah that's something about i think suddenly it's something about being whisked away and not having the opportunity that's what i mean yeah say goodbye i think yeah was um yeah but you know it's just a lovely moment

297.571 - 314.736 David Olusoga

I wonder if he talks about it on his next episode in between Guy Fawkes and James I. I fucking hope so, because I'm listening to it at the moment.

315.197 - 325.733 Joe Wilkinson

I bet halfway through he doesn't get the hump because he can't articulate himself well enough. Because the one thing he can do is articulate himself.

325.873 - 337.615 David Olusoga

His co-presenter will go, Oh, David, you know, what's that? I don't think she's American or something. I don't know. I don't know. I just don't know. Anyway.

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