Chapter 1: What incident made Joe feel self-conscious in a cafe?
I just feel like I'm inside it's really don't say really when you appeared oh wait we're doing this again I think it got this daisy on really that was weird anyway all right no let it let it out well it's just weird I was like I don't know what I was expecting but it was like exactly like I've seen thousands of times you were kind of like that
Just sort of static waiting, and I was like, fuck, how are we here? Why? I feel like you've been in that position like it was exactly like... I know why.
I know exactly why. This is episode 813.
I know, but sometimes you're leaning back and I was like, that one is my generic start position. I was like, fuck.
Yeah.
Sorry. Not how you want to start it.
No, it's how I felt when you came to my office just then. It's like I've got nothing going on. I thought, what are the things going on around? I was like, tired.
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Chapter 2: Who were the celebrities Joe encountered during his cafe visit?
Never talked about that.
Fat.
Tricky. Tricky dicky. There's like three or four things I thought. I haven't had a Barney with anyone.
It's just... Yeah, we've got to think outside the box. I've got something.
Go on then.
No, not... God, that's such a terrible answer. Sorry. Are you thinking it will be something or are you thinking it won't be? Be honest. Are you thinking I bet it won't be? A bit of both.
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Chapter 3: How did Joe's past feelings about the Primrose Hill lot influence his experience?
That's not a truthful answer.
What was the... Were you thinking of... I don't think you'd come with nothing. I think you would have given this a bit of thought and thought. No, there's something in this. Do you think it was the same yell? Might do.
I don't think it is. Who will? Go on. Okay, well, it's not massive, but it was just something I thought, do you know what I thought? I thought, oh, we could probably dig into that. Go on. Okay, so the other day, I had to go to London, and I bumped into three famous people.
and we chatted in a cafe, stood up, and I felt really uncomfortable, because I felt like people were... I was imagining being one of the people in the cafe, and I was thinking, what would I be thinking? Well, I've sort of been in those situations where I've sat and I've sort of gone, who do you think you are?
Chapter 4: What awkward thoughts did Joe have while standing in the cafe?
I was very conscious about it. Does that make sense?
Yeah, I need to know who they are or I'm not in. No, I was really listening. I was putting myself in the listener's shoes then. If I don't know who they are, I'm not in.
Okay, so can I do this? Frank Skinner, Roshin Kalati and Emily Dean. Isn't that a radio show? Yeah, I think it was. I think they're on their way to a radio show.
Right. Right. Hang on. And we chatted for about 10 minutes.
Chapter 5: How did Joe's feelings of jealousy manifest during the conversation?
Hang on. Hang on.
Hang on. I haven't fucking told you anything.
No, I want to go back a bit. So you just bumped into them. Yeah. What were you doing in a cafe?
I was meeting Roisin.
Right.
But I hadn't obviously known that Frank Skinner and Emily Dean and Sarah Baron was there as well, actually.
So was Roisin anything to do with Frank Skinner?
No, no.
Right.
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Chapter 6: What insights did the hosts share about celebrity culture?
And it was like stood up because obviously people were crossing paths, leaving and won't go in and all that. So it stood up in a cafe. And I was just really, I was quite self-conscious of... What? I felt, do you know what? For a second, I was like... I felt like... You know the Primrose Hill lot? Do you remember that thing? Do you remember the Primrose Hill?
Like Kate Moss and Liam Gallagher all lived in Primrose Hill. And I remember thinking, fuck you. And they were a little gang. And I imagine sort of like... I remember thinking, fuck you. Well, there wasn't a paper and they'd be photographed in cafes. And it would be like, oh my God, like Jamie Oliver, Kate Moss and Liam Gallagher all in a cafe together.
And I'll be like, oh, fucking are you? And who was in this cafe?
Chapter 7: How did the conversation shift towards personal reflections on fame?
Me. Frank Skinner, Emily Dean.
Roisin and me. And I was staying with the Primrose Hill guys. Well, you are, sort of. No, but you know what I mean? I was just like, I remember sort of, there'd always been a paper, like it'd be them going in a pub in Primrose Hill. They all lived in Primrose Hill. It was like... Well, there's your episode title.
the primrose rose hill lot google it and see what comes up what's this in the in the 90s yeah it'd be like i don't know top loader would suddenly be in primrose hill and i don't know i'm not using top note as a example but like sadie frost and jude law yeah that's it yeah
Right, okay. I saw Sadie Frost about a month ago. Did you? In fact, I met her last year. Did you?
Chapter 8: What conclusions did Joe and David draw about their experiences with celebrity?
Yeah. That's a bit weird. Right. I didn't know they were called the Primrose Hill lot.
It was always in the papers, and it would just be... It was fucking years of them being like... It was just them out and about.
Were you jealous?
obviously yeah that's why what were you jealous of well they were like i'll go okay so kate moss knows jude law and say hang on what were you jealous of well because they're just sitting in a cafe with money and everything going their way and that's what you lot were i felt like a wanker
To be fair, they were in their 20s and you were in your 60s.
Well, yeah. You know what I mean? I'm not saying I'm the primo, but I was very self-conscious of going, do I look like I'm having a fantastic day in a cafe?
Sadie, fucking hell, Sadie Frost and Jude Law here. Oh, my God, they look so young. They're 25. Duke Law was 19 here. Well, yes.
I love that you're comparing yourself. I'm not. You know I'm not. Well, you brought it up. Well, you know what I mean. I'm saying that's how I felt.
So what did you think people were thinking? They've got life sussed.
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