Summary:In this episode, Mark Zockoll and Matt George discuss corporal punishment in schools, using an NPR article about the states that still allow it as a springboard for a broader Christian-school conversation. They look at where the law stands, how public and private schools differ, and why this issue sits at the intersection of parenting, discipline, and institutional authority.Timestamps:00:00 - Opening the conversation on spanking students00:56 - Which states still allow corporal punishment in public schools02:18 - No federal law, only state-level rules04:12 - How private Christian schools may differ from public schools05:03 - Why the remaining states still allow it06:55 - Biblical framing: the rod, discipline, and abuse08:36 - Where Christian families and schools fall on the spectrum09:36 - Mark’s own experience with corporal punishment in Maryland11:29 - The article’s anecdotal structure and claims about data12:57 - The Oklahoma psychologist who supports paddling as a last resort14:24 - Parent requests, school practice, and the article’s final examples16:02 - Matt’s concern about public-sector norms and consequences17:40 - Parenting, institutional standards, and the heart of the issue18:55 - Why Mark supports school autonomy if parents knowingly opt in21:42 - The need for legal review, procedures, and clear safeguards22:42 - Maryland’s fight over a state handbook on corporal punishment25:05 - Why corporal punishment cannot be treated as one-size-fits-all26:55 - Communication and documentation when parents and schools agree28:19 - How changing parenting norms affect school policy31:07 - Questions for schools still using paddling32:01 - Shout-out to Stephen Carlson of Crosspointe Christian AcademyFollow UsYouTube: Christian Principals Podcast Instagram: @cprincipalspod Email: [email protected] Website: www.christianprincipalspodcast.com X: @CPrincipalsPod LinkedIn: Christian Principals PodcastExplore the Herzog Foundation's offerings for Christian schools at www.herzogfoundation.com. Book us for your next event to bring engaging and practical conversations to your community! And be sure to level up your school experience with our partner, Gradelink Student Information Systems, at ⁠⁠cpp.gradelink.com ⁠⁠today!Thank you for listening and for leading with integrity in your school!

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