What Part of Zero Trust Does Your Exception Not Understand?

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What is the significance of Zero Trust in cybersecurity?

What I love about security vendors. Go.
Patti Degnan 0:03
I love RSA conference booth energy, especially the ones with the loudest music and the most aggressively cheering people handing out branded puppies.
It's time to begin the CISO Series podcast.
David Spark 0:28
Welcome to the CISO Series podcast. My name is David Spark. I am the producer of said CISO Series and joining me as my co-host, he's one of your favorites, whether you like it or not, it's Andy Ellis, the principal of Doha. Andy, say hello to the audience.
Andy Ellis 0:42
Good afternoon, folks, or depending on when you're listening in, good morning, good evening, or good night.
David Spark 0:48
I'd be interested to know if anyone, because my wife does this, listens to us to fall asleep.
Andy Ellis 0:55
So I have been told by people that they use the audio reading of my book for going to sleep time. My voice is very soothing for them.
David Spark 1:05
That must make you feel fantastic. We are available at CISOseries.com. If you have not spent at least half of your day there, I really don't see how you get anything done. Please go there. Check out all our other programming. We have live shows most Fridays, Super Cyber Friday. Join us for those. Those are a ton of fun. Our sponsor for today's episode... Is ThreatLocker a continuously great sponsor for the CISO series? Allow what you need, block everything else by default, including ransomware and rogue code. We'll be talking about the latest from ThreatLocker a little bit later in the show. But first, I want to introduce a guest who's in studio with me right now. The former CISO over at Notion, now an operating partner at Andreessen Horowitz, working with many of the security portfolio, working with helping with security with the portfolio in general.
David Spark 1:58
Sitting right here, Patty Degnan. Patty, say hello to the audience.
Patti Degnan 2:01
Hello, hello, hello. And very nice to be here. Thanks for having me.
David Spark 2:04
All right. Now, I have a question for both of you, Patty, and for Andy. Have either of you ever attended your high school reunion? Nope.
Patti Degnan 2:15
Never.
David Spark 2:16
Never?
Andy Ellis 2:17
Never.
David Spark 2:17
Okay.
Andy Ellis 2:18
No. I'm going to say that only people who are like really insecure about their ego go to their high school reunion and then bring it up in conversation. I just want to put that out there. Oh.
Patti Degnan 2:29
All right, David, back at you.
David Spark 2:32
Andy knows I went to my high school reunion. Maybe. That's why he's setting it up like this, because I just saw Andy in Boston, and I had coordinated doing a live show in Boston so I could also attend my high school reunion, which I hadn't been to in a long time. I won't specify the number of years, but it's long. But I think what the humor of going to a high school reunion is, after you haven't seen anyone since you were 18, 17 years old, is what we all look like today. Like, who has let themselves go? Who has kept themselves together? And I think that's the greatest amusement of going back to the high school reunion. I can see a little schadenfreude goes a very long way. Yeah. So I went to, I mean, mine was very, very small because I went to an all boys prep school.
David Spark 3:21
My graduating class was 65. Only a dozen showed up. So and I was, I think, the only one from out of town that was there. Everyone else was local.
Andy Ellis 3:30
Now, it might also be different when you go to such a small school. Like my graduating class was, I think, 880 students. Out of a sophomore class that had been 1,100, just to give you sort of an idea of what the schooling was like. It matriculates that much? Yes. We lost 230 people or so. Wow. That's crazy. Across three years.
David Spark 3:50
That's insane. Well, so, I mean, with 800, you probably did not know everybody. When you have a class of 65, everybody knew each other. Yeah. How big was your high school?
Patti Degnan 4:00
The first high school I went to was like 3000 students. But then like when I lived in Orlando, but then I moved to upstate New York and it was my graduating class. I think it was like 120 people and they all knew each other and they all grew up since preschool together. And so you're the new kid and you don't have the same hook in. So, of course, I'm not going back to my high school reunion.
David Spark 4:20
All right. Well, for me, it was nice to see everybody.

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