Roger Pielke is a name you need to know. He has a Ph.D in Political Science and is a professor at the University of Colorado in Boulder. At CU, he is the director of the Sports Governance Center within the Department of Athletics at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research. That might all sound boring to you, but Roger's curiosity at the intersection of science, policy, sport has led him to be a critical player on topics that matter within sports governance. He has testified against the IAAF in the Caster Semenya case regarding sex testing in sport. He is an expert on sport governance related to anti-doping efforts and is active in the research needed to improve the rules and regulations promoting clean sport. In this interview, Kara and Chris interview Roger and discuss a range of topics within sports governance from the Caster Semenya case to the Russian doping scandal. He also provides his perspective on why WADA, the IAAF, and the IOC can't effectively govern anti-doping efforts and what needs to be done to fix a broken system. Roger brings a much-needed objective and evidence-based perspective to these really complicated topics. While his conclusions might surprise you sometimes, his voice is so important to educate us all on what can and should be done to better promote clean sport.

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