In this special bonus episode, hear more of Connor and Jack's conversation with Dr. Hollis Robbins, Dean of the School of Arts and Humanities at Sonoma State University and author of "Forms of Contention: Influence and the African American Sonnet Tradition." They discuss how themes of bondage were handled metaphorically by white poets, while they represented a dangerous reality for Black poets, Dr. Robbins shares a story from her time teaching at John's Hopkins, and together they tackle the question of AI generated poetry. For their full discussion of "Freedom Rider: Washout" by James Emanuel, check out Episode 104: https://soundcloud.com/close-talking/episode-104-freedom-rider-washout-james-emanuel-wdr-hollis-robbins Go here to get your own copy of Forms of Contention: https://ugapress.org/book/9780820357645/forms-of-contention/ Find us on Facebook at: facebook.com/closetalking  Find us on Twitter at: twitter.com/closetalking  Find us on Instagram: @closetalkingpoetry You can always send us an e-mail with thoughts on this or any of our previous podcasts, as well as suggestions for future shows, at [email protected].

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