In this episode of the Clown Spirit podcast, I talk with guest Bayo Akomolafe, celebrated speaker, teacher, and self-styled 'fugitive'. We talk about themes of playfulness, innovation, and the concept of 'cracks'—the imperfections and gaps that exist within systems. Bayo eloquently discusses how these cracks are not merely flaws but essential elements that facilitate newness and transformation. The conversation was an organic and improvised 'mess', interspersed with humor, interruptions by Bayo's son, and para-reflection. Bayo's poetic and philosophical insights challenge traditional notions of innovation, perfection, and moral policing, advocating instead for a deeper engagement with the fluid and mysterious aspects of life. This conversation underscored for me the value (perhaps necessity) of embracing imperfections. >>BAYO'S WEBSITE >>CLOWNVERGENCE (3 Day Online Clowning Conference) >>CLOWN SPIRIT LINKS

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