Andrew Sullivan | Club Random with Bill Maher
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How do Bill Maher and Andrew Sullivan kick off their random riff on debating and Oxford Union history?
I always call this the Afhas al Assad chairs because like I remember whenever I used to see like, you know, pictures of like Madeline Albright or somebody like talking with Assad. It was always like this. And she would complain that, you know, he would you know, bitch for like eight hours about the plight of the Arab world and, you know, the history and uh Syria, like before they go, Okay, but can we do something about the water rights and the Golden Heights? You know, whatever it was. And I feel like uh like I could do better than boring you for eight hours. Uh but also I'm just glad you're here because, you know, I feel like I've known you forever, but we never really sat down. Never. It was always on the show or like a little bit after.
You're very professional about that though. I appreciate that about what you do. Oh, you mean like trying to be friends with yes. It al has to happen slowly. Yeah. And organically. Yeah. The way I grow this. No, I don't grow it, but uh but you know and but I feel like you and I are overdue for slowly and organically.
We are because the truth is I you barely ever say anything I don't just I don't agree with. And the same with you. I just feel like this man gets everything I fucking believe.
And you say it so much more eloquently. What you do, all you fucking limeys are are just naturally more communicative. You just are. It's amazing the way the facility you have with the English language. Well, part of it is
is is Coming from a big Irish family.
No, I it is something in the schooling in the British history and you know, it is the mother language.
The Oxford Union, Bill. You what? I was president of the Oxford Union when I was like chair of the Oxford Debating Society. I'm like this is I've been doing this for you. Well, I was captain of my little
league baseball team, so fuck you. I didn't move to your fucking country, you moved to mine. But you know But really for the for the amount I really love you, it's a very overdue thing that we would sit down here and uh
smoke
our respectively sized cigarettes.
No, I won't.
Um Yeah. Especially because England may have the big balls. But well, like Big Ben.
Uh-huh.
Big balls on the end of big men. Like when they ring the thing at midnight. But we have the big joints over here in America.
D cannabis in England is a really weird thing because
Is it
legal? They're still terrible about it. It's it's not legal. It's not. Not only that, but the public debate is terrible. Not in any of the four countries? No. Really? No. No. And it's this uh Well I found it we maybe we should we should wait until we do the podcast. But but uh we're
doing it.
Oh this is happening right now?
That everyone that's the b that's the beauty of this podcast is that you just don't know it's happening. Uh
well the thing about weed is that I grew up Well, when I was in call I mean, I was a totally uptight. completely doing my homework. Terrified
little gay Catholic boy. I was the same thing if you take out the gay. Okay. Terrified doing my homework. Terrified of I don't know what.
I was terrified mainly because socializing didn't mean I had to go with girls. Getting beat up. I was No, but I was also the girl thing. I i I couldn't hack it with the girls.
Well I couldn't either, and I'm not gay. So I guess you you'll be gay. I might I may as well have been gay.
School. This is why some of my the most bonding moments with stray guys is with nerdy Jewish guys who had exactly the same experience in high school. Well, I'm not
Jewish. Well you have to. I w I didn't even know that until I was thirteen. Okay. Well I
just mean that there's a certain nebusheim. It
was the Catholic upbringing, I think I had that that made it even worse because they're so demonic about sex and that sex is so bad. I never once had a discussion with my parents. Like once my father like gave me the facts of life and it was like very awkward and we were both glad to get over with in five minutes. But, you know, it was just a po a a point of such embarrassment at home. Four or five. Or if I was watching TV and something came on the other side.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
How do Bill Maher and Andrew Sullivan kick off their random riff on debating and Oxford Union history?
0:02–11:28
2
What childhood experiences does Andrew Sullivan share about growing up Catholic and discovering his sexuality?
11:28–35:06
3
Why do Maher and Sullivan argue about the benefits and drawbacks of circumcision?
35:06–1:24:24
4
How does the conversation shift to the changing demographics and melting‑pot nature of modern London?
1:24:24–1:28:20