Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Look, you're talking about one of my favorite movies, okay? No, I'm just... I consider Kubrick like... We're not arguing.
Pulling kale. Pulling Kyle. Excuse me. Sorry, I mean... Hey. Hey, Bill. How are you? I'm good, man. How are you? You've aged well. You look very similar to when I first saw you on the screen. Thank you, Bill. Been a fan for a long time. Oh, thank you. You're a lot of fan. Thank you. I found out when I told people you were coming on. Thank you, Bill. All right. Well, that's it.
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Chapter 2: How does Al Pacino influence Cary Elwes' career?
You know what I'm talking about. Okay. So anyway, so I'm kind of not working in New York, which again is not great because, you know, you're starting to like figure out what you're going to eat, how you're going to make the rent, all that stuff. Yeah. I'm in a restaurant with a friend and he starts having a heart attack at lunch, my friend. And I'm like, what's going on? Are you okay?
He's like, Al Pacino, three o'clock. I'm like, what? He goes, Al Pacino, over there, over there. I look over, and sure enough, Al's there. This is Café des Artistes, which my friend was paying for. I couldn't afford that lunch. I remember it. You remember Café, right?
Was that with the crayons on the table? I don't know. I think it was. What was this? It was one of those where they had, like, the tablecloth was paper.
Really?
Yes, and there was crayons. You were supposed to, like, draw. It was so... It was so. It was, you know. Anyway, so there's Al. That's why they hate us in the Midwest. Who can fucking blame them?
There's crayons on the table. Be artistic while you're ordering. Anyway, so there's Al. And he's entertaining. He's got like 12 people at a long table. And he's at the head of the table. And my friend, who's an actor, Also not working, by the way. He goes, hey, we're actors. We should go say hi to Al. I'm like, no, we really shouldn't. He's with friends. Let's not do that.
And as I'm saying, let's not do that, he's up and out of the chair. He's over there. And I'm like turning the color of your curtain right here. I'm just so embarrassed right now. I'm like, oh, God. I look over and I see him gesturing. Al's like, who is this guy? Are you a waiter? What is this? And I see him point, my friend point to me. saying that over there.
And Al looks over, and I can see him looking right at me. Now I'm really mortified. Why is he blaming you? Because he's saying, come over to come and say hello. Oh, oh, oh. Well, so your friend succeeded. He did well. I'm wondering, is this really what Al wants, to have people come up and introduce themselves, strangers, all the time while he's having lunch with his friends? And I walk over.
And my friend says, oh, Mr. Pacino, that's my friend, Cary, always, he's an actor. And he goes, oh, yeah? What are you doing right now? And I said, well, you know, I'm going up on auditions and I'm between jobs. And he goes, oh, so you're drifting. And I went, oh, great, this is great. Michael Corleone just called me a drifter. This is exactly my day is working out as planned.
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Chapter 3: What insights does Cary Elwes share about his acting journey?
And he used to go up to the curtain on the stage while everyone was taking their seats. And to build up his courage, Bill, he would open the curtains and go, you're about to see a performance you've never seen before tonight. And then that gave him the strength to go out there and do that. He said that to himself. To himself. Yeah. To give him the courage and the strength.
Don't we all do that in our own way?
Yeah, we all do.
You kind of have to psych up.
Psych yourself up. Right before you. But he had terrible fright.
Your close up is coming after lunch, Mr. Elwes, right? Are you going to go have a big fucking heavy lunch? No. No. You're going to go to your trailer. Yeah. I've always hated that. when I thought I was gonna work in the morning. That's funny. When we're fresh. Right. And they waste all morning doing the master shot, which they never use.
Right, right, never.
And then, okay, after lunch, okay, so now I'm hungry. but I can't eat, because you can't act. That's hilarious. Or, by the way, fuck, if you're right after eating. I don't know why people try either one, but they do. That's hilarious. But isn't it right?
It's true, always. No, it's always unpredictable. You're on their timetable, yeah?
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Chapter 4: How do different acting styles compare between Olivier and Brando?
It's what works for the individual. Absolutely.
Yeah. And by the way, people think atheists care a lot more about the subject than we do. Right. Really, we just don't give a shit. It's hilarious. No, it's true. Yeah, it's great. I was singing some songs at my birthday party the other night, and one of them had some religious-y, and I said to the people, just because I'm singing these words, I don't give a shit.
My Sweet Lord by George Harrison, I love this song.
One of the great spiritual songs of all time.
I'll sing along. I don't even believe that. It's like my sweet Lord can't wait to see you. That's not me. But the song is good. Mostly we don't care. We're not dogmatic about like there definitely is no God. There could be anything. Plainly there's something other than Just, well, whatever, because we're here. And is it all a dream? Is it the Matrix and we're not really living it?
Or is there an alternative universe like this on another planet? Are there other planets? How did it all begin? What was before the Big Bang? I mean, I could give you a million questions that nobody can even come close to answering. Atheists are just people who go... Yeah, so we don't give a shit. And the rest of you are like, no, I think I know. Yeah. I think I know. I think I know what it is.
That's hilarious. And I think I know who it is. And I think what happens is reincarnation. I think what happens is you. I don't know. Nobody knows.
Nobody knows. And if you do have the answer to that, you need to share it with all of us. No, I just believe in, I believe there is a God. I don't know if it's a male or female, I don't know. I have never met him.
So I'm just saying I- If there is even such a concept as a God, it must be so beyond male and female, right?
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Chapter 5: What is the nature of purgatory according to the speakers?
Purgatory's like the middle. No, I know, but you're on your way to eternal damnation. I know, but still, yeah. What is purgatory like? I know in hell it's like, I don't know.
a devil hot poking you with a haven't been there i know but like we have a no but i'm just saying like people have a a mental picture of hell like you're in it's fucking hot it's the flames right the devil is poking you with his pitchfork it's just pain right like internally And heaven, we know that.
Cloud, God, whenever somebody dies, they do a cartoon of them and they're like doing the thing in heaven that they did on earth. Like Bob Hope is up in heaven with a golf club. Right. So I know what heaven is and I know what hell is. What's purgatory?
I think purgatory, the idea is that you're on your way.
Oh, I know the idea.
Right. Dude, honestly, I didn't pay much attention to Sunday school. That was the thing for me. There was so much mythology attached to it that I was like, you had me lost on the third Sunday school class.
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Chapter 6: How do Cary Elwes and Bill Maher view the impact of Hollywood on gun culture?
You know what I mean?
I don't know if you want to get involved with me on a business level, but I'm telling you, if you think... I think Purgatory is wide open. Series, epic movie. I'm thinking Ridley Scott. That's hilarious. I see you. I've worked at some shows that seemed like Purgatory. Yeah, they really did. No, I think we need a guy just like you.
You're the right age to run Purgatory. Okay.
You're neither a good guy nor a bad guy because you're in Purgatory. That's excellent. And it's about the dichotomy. Sure. I'm thinking Al Pacino. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. Too funny. As the OG purgatory dude. Oliver Reed is in there somewhere. Well, we wish. I know. Al could still do it.
Yeah.
Not so much Oliver Reed.
No. This is the strangest conversation I've had with anybody in a long time. It's riveting.
I keep telling people Club Random is not like the other podcasts, and they just won't listen to me. I mean, I don't know what I have to do.
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Chapter 7: What insights do they share about the evolution of filmmaking and storytelling?
I'm doing it. No, it's great. I'm getting high and talking to somebody I like. Oh, thank you, Bill. And I just don't ever want to, like, have an agenda. It's like, it would be as ridiculous... for me to do this show with an agenda, which again, the other shows do, and that's fine. It's what we watched on TV for 70 years, talk shows.
You have a card, you have questions, but it's like if I went out to dinner with you, which I would love to sometimes, like if I showed up with a card, Before we order, Carrie, I understand that your new project is... That's hilarious. But actually, you know what?
That's hilarious.
What is your new project? Maybe we should be plugging something.
Okay. Stranger Things? No. Are you plugging that? That's over. Been there, done that. But I did work with somebody I worked with. Dead Man's Wire. We want to plug that.
And Day Come, Oh, Don't Ring. I'm a professional, too. Not just at Pothead. although I'm gonna have a pot break.
Yeah, it's actually, Bill Skarsgård is the lead. He plays this guy called Tony Kiritsis. He's great. So he's the son of?
Stellan. The best. The best. I was at the Golden Globe Sunday, and when he won, I was like, fuck, I have a chance. This woke town, I can't believe they nominated me. I can't believe that. It's hilarious. But if they gave one to Kellen Skarsgård. Stellan, yeah. Stellan, even he won it. And then a kid, the kid from the British show, the genius show on Netflix, Adolescents. Yeah, great.
The kid's amazing. He's amazing. They gave it to Skellen and they gave it to a kid? Anybody could win this thing. And then I didn't. Anyway, so it's called Dead Man's Wire. It's directed by Gus Van Zandt, who you had on the show.
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Chapter 8: What personal experiences shaped Cary Elwes' views on family and acting?
Yeah. And it's based on a true story about a kidnapping that took place in Indianapolis in 1977. And Bill plays this guy. Real story. Real story, which I didn't even know about. I didn't either. Bill plays this guy called Tony Kiritsis, who believes that his mortgage broker has screwed him over.
So he decides to take matters into his own hands and kidnaps his broker and holds him hostage in a police standoff for 63 hours and ends up airing all his grievances on TV. On live TV.
I mean, it's a very apropos movie, even though it's about the 70s for an era that we live in now where income inequality is such a big issue and people are fed up with, you know, I mean, what is the big issue now? They call it now affordability. Right. That's the new word. Right.
Which I mean it was always a word and it was always valid but right now it's like the thing affordability and just people having the idea that everybody is ripping us off and somehow like half the country can you know afford Taylor Swift tickets and you know half the country is working three jobs. Right. So in that atmosphere You know, this thing that happened in the 70s, very timely.
Very timely. You know. Very timely. So I thought it really resonated.
Oh, you saw it? Yeah. Oh, cool. Of course. Yeah, it's very much like a 70s film. Gus wanted to shoot it like Dog Day Afternoon and French Connection. He wanted to give it that. gritty feel to it. So it's really a film. It's not a movie. It's more like cinema. And we're very proud of it. Al Pacino was in it. He plays the guy who's the owner of the mortgage broker.
That must have been a nice full circle moment.
It was. It was a nice Easter egg for me, definitely. No, but like You didn't have any scenes together? No, but I came and I showed up when he worked. And you reminded him of what happened?
I don't have to. I mean, you know, Al's a very important part of my life.
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