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BEST OF NFL NEWS PART 2: Scary Terry OVERPAID? + Anthony Richardson’s FUTURE

29 Aug 2025

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Chapter 1: What is Anthony Richardson's current status with the Colts?

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It seems like just yesterday that the Two Guys Five Rings podcast was in Paris for the Olympics. And now we're heading to Milan for the 2026 Milan Cortina Olympic Winter Games. I'm Bowen Yang. And I'm Matt Rogers. You are the pan-Mediterranean icon. And I've always said that.

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Chapter 2: Was Terry McLaurin's contract worth the investment for the Commanders?

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What do you think you are? I think I'm more Cortina. Listen to Two Guys, Five Rings on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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37.797 - 56.474 Cam Jordan

What's up? It's Cam Jordan. I'm back with Season 3 of your favorite podcast, the Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast. Tap in every Wednesday to hear conversations with my friends and stars from the NFL, the sports world in general, and entertainment about anything from teams and players making waves to pop culture. And I'll take you inside my journey through my 15th season in the NFL.

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56.894 - 67.804 Cam Jordan

Looking forward to you joining me this season, the season of more, on the Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast. Catch new episodes every Wednesday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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I fell in love with the grind.

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84.951 - 94.219 Stephen Curry

You have to find joy in the work you do when no one else is around. Success is not an accident. I'm passing the ball to you. Let's go.

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Steph Curry redefined basketball. Now he's rewriting what it means to succeed. Order your copy of the New York Times bestseller Shot Ready today at stephencurrybook.com. If one of us wins, will we all win?

107.256 - 116.846 Ashley Rayfeld

I'm Ashley Rayfeld, the host of the podcast Good Luck With That. Good Luck With That is a skateboarding podcast about the past, present, and future of women and gender expansive skateboarding.

Chapter 3: How will Kyle Hamilton's extension affect Lamar Jackson's future?

117.427 - 122.932 Ashley Rayfeld

In our show, we'll talk with skaters like Bobby Delfino on pushing style, culture, and the conversation forward.

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You break down the door, sick, now like hold the door for everyone. I believe in that solely.

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129.119 - 134.224 Ashley Rayfeld

So listen to Good Luck With That on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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139.115 - 154.155 Shannon Sharpe

GM Chris Ballard said team is not trading Anthony Richardson. It is easy to say, okay, he's done. I don't agree. I've said numerous times, I don't agree with that. I think overcoming challenges and obstacles along the way are good for anybody.

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Chapter 4: What considerations are there for paying aging NFL players?

154.515 - 178.323 Shannon Sharpe

I do. I'm proud of Anthony, of where he's at and how far he's come. He's come miles. It's tough on any young quarterback in this league, but for him to keep taking the growth steps he has and work so hard and not get the goals for himself, all right? Now continue to do that. That's when we've got a chance to see real growth. Mm-hmm.

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178.343 - 199.131 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

You like that, Ocho? You like what he had to say? Absolutely. Also, from a business side of things, we know that the long-term answer is not Daniel Jones. We've seen a small symbol side of what Daniel Jones was with the New York Giants. So to think that all of a sudden... Okay, my bad. But to think that Daniel Jones is the answer long-term, that's not it.

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199.171 - 213.244 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

So why would you trade Anthony Richardson? He's only 23 years old. He's probably going to continue to grow, continue to get better. Sometimes... Other quarterbacks reach their potential much sooner than others. Maybe it's going to take Anthony Richardson a little bit longer.

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213.545 - 232.968 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Maybe the benching now again and losing this spot is a blessing in disguise for him to continue to grow, to continue to get better. And at some point, if things aren't going well in Indianapolis with Daniel Jones as the starting quarterback, do you know who's going to have to come in and be that savior for the rest of the season? Brother Anthony Richardson. Absolutely.

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232.988 - 236.993 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

They would not let him go or trade him somewhere else where there is no backup.

237.614 - 244.435 Shannon Sharpe

No, of course not. I don't think he's trading him now. Now, we might be having a different conversation next offseason.

245.444 - 267.827 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Okay. That's different. Now that's, that's depending. That's depending if things right with Daniel Jones and what he shows us, what type of growth maturity from the quarterback position, being able to execute the offense, facilitate the ball without the turnovers, without the mental lapses that he has from time to time. Now that can save not just in job, but his future. Yes.

268.488 - 288.065 Shannon Sharpe

So if he gets an opportunity, he's going to have to take full advantage of it because he's not getting another chance after this or Joe. He gets back in there and he doesn't take advantage of this opportunity, they're going to move on. Because it becomes cost prohibitive for them to keep him on the roster. And you're never going to get the value for him.

288.385 - 299.662 Shannon Sharpe

I mean, you took away the fourth pick in the draft. The fourth pick in the draft, Ojo, you do realize that's supposed to be... At the fourth pick in the draft, you're supposed to be franchise altering. Especially if you're a quarterback.

Chapter 5: What factors influence a quarterback's development in the NFL?

500.329 - 515.417 Shannon Sharpe

Now, I get my chicklets from smashing the eggs. Come on up out of there, damn it. I'm just being honest with you, Ocho. Look, you've been in the league. I've been in the league. We've been around the league. That's how it is now. Ain't nobody waiting.

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515.477 - 539.841 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Ain't nobody waiting on you. Listen, most of the time, honestly, you think about owners, think about owners, especially in the NFL, they want instant gratification. They want instant, you know, because most of the owners, they're businessmen. And most of the time, what businessmen do is when they want results right now, they throw money at it. But it doesn't work like that in the NFL.

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540.022 - 556.226 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

It doesn't work like that. So the frustration piles up because in other areas of business and aspects that I have going on around, once I throw money at something, right away I get results. But it just doesn't work that way when it comes to NFL and finding an adequate quarterback that you can rely on for a decade that you just build around.

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556.246 - 576.157 Shannon Sharpe

Well, the thing that you and I talk about is that all of a sudden you start to base your success on somebody else's. See, they don't have patience because I'm looking around the league and I see what Bo Nix did. I look around the league and I see what Jaden Daniels did. I look around the league and I see what C.J. Stroud did. So now, hold on. Oh, wait. You went higher than Bo.

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577.679 - 602.144 Shannon Sharpe

Why are you not playing like that? Why can't you be C.J. Stroud? Why can't you be Jaden Daniels? So now you're basing your guy's success on someone else's success. And so now it's almost like, Ocho, you looking at somebody else, you basing your marriage on someone else's. Okay, they look happy, but you don't know. You don't know what they put into their marriage to be happy.

602.465 - 623.225 Shannon Sharpe

You don't know how they're coaching said player. You don't know how he receives information. You don't understand how he processes information. So with all that being said, you looking at it, you just looking at like, well, damn, I see, look at his numbers and look at my quarterback numbers. It's not that black and white. It's not that cut and dry.

623.906 - 651.742 Shannon Sharpe

There are a lot of other things that go into it, whether or not a player will be successful. And now I got to like, okay, like you said, okay, be patient. Well, that's where you do your homework. And if you take it, if you take it a project, you have to be patient. You can't expect them to come out and be like, be like CJ Stroud. You can't expect him to be like a Jane Daniels.

651.762 - 678.624 Shannon Sharpe

You can't expect him to be like Caleb Williams, a guy that started at Oklahoma. What was it? Oklahoma. And then he follows a Lincoln Riley to USC. You can't expect that. That man got 30 plus stars on his bill. You got half that. Jane Daniels got like damn 50 starts. You don't have that. It's like a car, an old school car. You just can't slap it together.

679.025 - 692.173 Shannon Sharpe

When people say they're doing a rebuild on a car, they're going to take their time and do it. It's going to take them years. But the problem is, is that I have other cars I can drive. So I'm not counting on this car.

Chapter 6: How does the NFL's trading culture affect young quarterbacks?

692.193 - 711.366 Shannon Sharpe

So I can take my time. Ocho, bro, this pro sports. They not waiting. Yeah. They're not waiting. Those days of, oh, two or three years. Man, look here. I might be dead. I might be dead. I might have done sold a team. I'm not waiting on two or three years. I need you to get it right now.

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712.358 - 719.247 Shannon Sharpe

And when you don't get it right, you're not going to have too many guys that you select in the top five, and they don't pan out.

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719.807 - 738.431 Cam Jordan

What's up? It's Cam Jordan. I'm back with Season 3 of your favorite podcast, the Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast. Tap in every Wednesday to hear conversations with my friends and stars from the NFL, the sports world in general, and entertainment about anything from teams and players making waves to pop culture. and I'll take you inside my journey through my 15th season in the NFL.

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738.831 - 750.165 Cam Jordan

Looking forward to you joining me this season, the season of more, on the Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast. Catch new episodes every Wednesday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Let's go.

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Steph Curry redefined basketball. Now he's rewriting what it means to succeed. Shot Ready isn't just a memoir. It's a playbook for anyone chasing their potential. Discover stories, strategies, and over 100 never-before-seen photos. Order Shot Ready now at stephencurrybook.com. Don't miss Stephen Curry's New York Times bestseller, Shot Ready, available now. Ring, ring, ring, ring, ring.

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Seems like just yesterday that the Two Guys Five Rings podcast was in Paris for the Olympics. And now we're heading to Milan for the 2026 Milan Cortina Olympic Winter Games. I'm Bowen Yang. And I'm Matt Rogers, and we'll join athletes from 93 countries as Two Guys, Five Rings hits the slopes of the Italian Alps for the 2026 Milan-Cortina Olympic Winter Games.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of the latest NFL contracts on team dynamics?

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It's the 2026 Milan Cortina Olympic Winter Games. Watch and listen to every moment of the Winter Olympics February 6th through the 22nd on NBC and Peacock and on the iHeartRadio app. And listen to Two Guys, Five Rings on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you in Milan. Yeah, see you in Milan.

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867.49 - 884.926 Ashley Rayfeld

If one of us wins, will we all win? I'm Ashley Reifeld, and I'm the host of the Women's Skateboarding Podcast, Good Luck With That. Good Luck With That is a skateboarding podcast that is part cultural record, part news brief, mostly group therapy, and a place to talk about the past, present, and future of women and gender expansive skateboarding.

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885.287 - 903.724 Ashley Rayfeld

This week, me and my co-hosts, Nora Vasconcelos and Alex White, we have Fabiana Delfino on the show, a professional skateboarder from Florida whose grit was forged in a family of athletes. Tune in to hear how she broke into the boys club, what it takes to be pro, and why just being grateful you're here shouldn't be the price of entry.

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Maybe the industry thinks that we just started skating five years ago because that's when they maybe started paying attention.

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909.062 - 915.711 Ashley Rayfeld

It's a no-fluff conversation about putting in the years, stacking clips and receipts, and still having to prove your worth while the industry catches up.

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You break down the door, sick, now, like, hold the door for everyone.

919.797 - 931.332 Ashley Rayfeld

We created Good Luck With That because we want to share our experience of existing in an industry that wasn't always built for everyone. So listen to Good Luck With That on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

934.568 - 960.715 Shannon Sharpe

Ocho, the commander signed Terry McLaurin to a three-year deal worth up to $96 million. He received $30 million bonus in the new deal. With Terry back, the commanders are true Super Bowl contenders. We got the list up there. You can see right there on average salary where guys are based at. Ocho, I said his... Huh? I said $32 million. I say somewhere between 28, 32. You was at 32?

961.115 - 985.146 Shannon Sharpe

I said, I don't see him going north of DK, but hey, plus he's a little older, Ocho, and you don't want to be the team to set that precedent because I was reading today of the 24 guys that's got these new deals, only one is 30 years of age of older when signing them, and that's Tyreek. Tyreek is unique because Tyreek might be the oldest, but he outrun everybody that's on his list. Every last one.

Chapter 8: How does the addition of Adam Thielen impact the Vikings' roster?

1184.538 - 1208.031 Shannon Sharpe

Hey, that, that 15, you're a third round pick. Uh, took care of your money, this right here, just to sign him on as a loan, you should be good. Even before you even get to the big money that you're going to start making next year, you should be straight. He seems like a guy that has his head on straight. He'll do good with his money, but I'm glad Washington... I always like that, Ocho.

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1208.131 - 1231.996 Shannon Sharpe

I like when teams reward their players. I do. Guys that you know. I mean, Cincinnati, they drafted you. They saw you. They know your work habits. They know what you do. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I hate, I don't like. So let me get this straight. I've been here four or five years. You hard-time me, but come free agency, you go get this joker here. You don't know what he like. Yeah.

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1232.016 - 1240.583 Shannon Sharpe

You don't know what his practice habits is. You don't know anything about the guy. But you go give him a boatload of money, you see me every day busting my ass, and then you hard-time me about my paper.

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1241.778 - 1244.303 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Well, that's crazy.

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1244.624 - 1266.657 Shannon Sharpe

I'm like, bro, damn. That's crazy. But it's nice to know y'all got some money. So when I go knocking on the door next year, I don't want to hear nothing. I don't want to hear no excuses. I don't want to hear nothing, Ocho. Yeah. But Jamar Chase is the highest paid at $40,000. And then you got Jetta. Boy, there's a big gap between you. Who's going to be able to fill that gap?

1267.058 - 1274.547 Shannon Sharpe

Who's going to be available, Ocho, to go in between that 35 and 40? Or who pole vaults over Chase? Puka Nakua?

1276.23 - 1303.003 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

No. No. It's going to be a minute. It's going to be a minute, huh? You got neighbors. You got Brian Thomas Jr. There it is. It would probably be neighbors. Neighbors or Brian Thomas Jr. ? If anything, it would probably be neighbors. Brian Tomlin Jr. might fall right up under that. Right up under that. But the next person who I say neighbors might get maybe 42, 43.

1303.388 - 1325.074 Shannon Sharpe

See, Chase had the perfect storm because he had this in a contract year. So he got the triple crown in a contract year. Yeah. So if you give him what he's asking for, maybe you get him for 35, 36, 37. But now since you didn't, you got to pay a tax. You got to pay a penalty tax.

1325.134 - 1327.397 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

But listen, they bet against him.

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