Chapter 1: What makes Ryan Davis consider himself the GOAT of his generation?
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Let me guess, you said no.
I said... Ryan, you want a picture with Tracy? Of course he want a picture with me. He been puppy dogging me all night. I'm the reason he do stand up. I used to do the same thing with Eddie and Martin. I get it. Of course he wants a picture with me. I was like, who? Nobody has ever watched my comedy and went, Tracy Morgan. You're not one of my influences, big dog. God, Lord.
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Chapter 2: How did Ryan Davis transition from online comedy to sold-out shows?
He's like, okay, y'all had this great defensive team. You were up 3-1. Yeah. You got walked down. and you guys didn't make it to the shower, you was blowing up my phone. Yeah. Me and my mom and my family, we're in the Hamptons. We're enjoying some wine and some cheese, charcuterie, and here y'all go knocking on my door coming to get me. I ain't no defensive. I've never been on a defensive team.
That's true. But you know when he got his best defensive stats? on that team. His most blocks, most everything. Best defensive efficiency while with the Warriors. So it wasn't that he was a defensive player, but he sure helped on defense whenever. How was the offense?
How was the offense?
With KD, Steph, Klay. It's KD. That's what I'm saying. KD, Steph, Klay. No, just like he told them. Like when Patrick Beverly and them would say, I'm Kevin Durant. You You know who I am, right? That's the thing. When I joke about people, I ain't forget he was Kevin Durant. That's Kevin. That's Mr. Durant. That's the Durantula.
Look, whenever I joke about people or say these things, I would, Kevin, listen, Kevin, I would have never said all that. You called me a trash comedian. Yeah That was out that was the first response I was like well angles what I said wasn't the nicest but I did Yeah, so what I said was Because he was like offense wins championships. Okay, and I said
Well, it's this type of thinking that may explain why he hasn't won since he left the Warriors. Not the nicest thing. No, it wasn't. Why'd you have to go there? First of all, you know that's a touchy subject. Yes. So you went there. You poking to bear a hole in you. In my defense, I didn't know he was going to see that. What do you mean? You know Kevin Durant's on social media.
It's a lot of comments. It's a lot of comments, Shannon. You got a blue checkmark by your name? Yeah.
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Chapter 3: What are Ryan Davis's thoughts on comedy beefs and independence in the industry?
So he's going to see that. Yeah. So in my defense, right, that's why I said before it wasn't the nicest thing to say. But it wasn't ā I didn't attack him. You did. You said that explains why you haven't won a championship outside of ā The mindset. I think the mindset needs to shift. I think the mindset needs to shift. That's my basketball opinion. I never said he was trash.
I think Kevin Durant's one of the top 15 people to ever touch a basketball. You know what I mean? I think very highly of his ability on the floor. I think the mindset is wrong. I think he got two rings on a team that did really well on defense and In addition to how good the offense was. Yes. And the only team in the history of basketball who won without a good defensive efficiency is the Lakers.
And we ain't... That's two of the top five greatest players of all time on one roster. But when you look at Kevin... and you look at what he was able to do, I think it was... And you're never going to get a consensus on this. Golden State needed Kevin Durant as much as Kevin Durant needed them.
So it was ordered to... And what it did is enable Golden State to complete the dynasty, and it gave Kevin Durant validation because he had rings. Because he was going to be the greatest player to never win a championship had he not got those. That's bestowed upon Barkley or Karl Malone or someone like that. But he got those rings... I hear you, but think about this, I believe
Because you remember, he was up 3-1 against the Warriors that same year. Yes. With Oklahoma City. Yes. I believe Oklahoma City gets it done. I think he brings one home to Oklahoma City. I really believe that. Yeah, I think he had gotten to the point that he didn't believe that he could get it done. See, and that's the thing. Because he was up 3-1.
He's like, if I'm up 3-1 and I got games on my home court and I can't get it done, the likelihood, and it's not going to get any better. See, I don't believe... I believe he could have got it done. I believe that Oklahoma City team wins one if they stay together. The reason I come off so harsh in the video is because he said I was trash.
And you can't say that I'm a trash comedian because then I got to show you how good I am at this. So I had, and it was so funny because when I saw it. So you went deep, huh? Oh, when I saw it, I had my children with me. So I couldn't even respond immediately. But I was taking them to their moms the next day. I was just hugging them. I was like, hey, your daddy about to go viral.
You know what I mean?
Your daddy about to go viral. A bunch of people hit me. They were like, did you see this? I was like, you know I saw it. I'm a nerd, so research is fun for me. I couldn't wait. I was like, oh... I can't wait to tell you about yourself. Let me tell you all the things I know about you, Mr. Durant. And when I released it, it went crazier than I thought. For me, it was. And it's so funny.
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Chapter 4: How has Ryan Davis's personal life influenced his comedy and career?
Because I love sports. I love sports more than anything. Yesterday, I took a meeting, and they were like, what TV shows are you watching right now? None. I watch sports. I love sports. Athletes are like, they're the greatest people in the world to me. Yeah, I love athletes. So, you know, and for me, it's just like, I think it's a different kind of genius. You know what I mean?
Like when I'm watching Kevin Durant, when I watch him do what he do, it gets on my nerves when somebody goes, ah, he does that because he's seven feet. You know what I mean? Seven feet, seven foot players played in the NBA. How many of them played like Kevin Durant before Kevin Durant? Zero. Exactly. Exactly. It's him. He's brilliant at what he does. Yes. So that's the thing.
And I appreciate watching people's gifts. I like experiencing people's gifts. Have you seen him play in person? Yeah. Yeah. That was before or after you made your video? He might fire on you. He see you in the stands now. I don't be hard for him to hit. Yeah, he got me by like a foot. He had to swing down to really get me. But I think I saw him before. First time I saw him, he was with the Nets.
Okay. I made the video when he was in Phoenix. Oh, okay. So I did see him before that, and I've seen him after that. Oh, okay. Yeah, now when I go to the game, I just like zoom in on the ball spot on his head and then I go. Man, you gotta let that go, man. You still juggin'.
And then I posted it.
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Chapter 5: What challenges does Ryan face in his co-parenting journey?
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Chapter 6: How does Ryan describe the impact of fame on his family relationships?
Let's give an example of Fox, right? Fox was new. Simpsons, Martin, Living Single, New York Undercover. You see what I'm saying? Boom. Because it was just good. And then you make so much money, they left the audience that made them what it was. Netflix, Orange is the New Black, Tom Segura doing specials, giving specials to Tom Segura, Sebastian Maniscalco, you know what I mean?
Ali Wong before they were big and they were just good and then you gave them a good product and then it blew up.
Mm-hmm.
then Netflix making money hand over fist and they were like Let's give specials the people who ain't done comedy in 15 years and just give them Millions upon millions of dollars and hopes to get people to subscribe to it When in fact the way that you keep an audience is and get in an audience engaged is just to give them More would be just give them good content people respect
Good content, people know when you lying to them, people know when you're cheating them. So just don't cheat them, you know what I mean? And too many times it's like, how can we make more money? Well, you lose when you do it that way. Now people aren't checking Netflix for specials like that. Now they gotta bring somebody on just to keep the eyeballs.
because they don't even know how to invest in up-and-coming talent anymore. Well, I had Country Wayne on, and Country Wayne said you taught him how to monetize, and now Country Wayne's a multi. Man, I appreciate my brother so much for saying that. I did not expect him to do that because the level of honesty. is what I didn't expect. Wayne was facing hard times whenever he came to me for that.
If he had not gotten to comedy, he was really going to be facing hard times. Yeah, yeah. Wayne, because the well was drying up. And he was like, but the one thing about Wayne, boy, if he don't know how to do nothing, he know how to make money. He know how to make money. A little hustle. Boy, he know, listen. Like I can't like he came to me for advice. I can come to Wayne for advice.
But Wayne, if I ever get to a point where I got five dollars in my pocket, Wayne, what you do with five dollars? That's exactly what you do with five dollars. Yo, yo, he'll tell you how to flip. By the end of the day, you'd be like, thank you, Wayne. That man, and he's so funny, and he's so skilled. But this platform is so huge.
And like I said, I'm introverted, and a lot of people don't really understand. So when Wayne says, when you say, ask who helped you understand in this empire you built, and he said my name, that was so crazy to me, because I really didn't expect it. But me and Wayne have been tied at the hip the whole time.
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Chapter 7: What are Ryan's thoughts on the boundaries of comedy?
OK. Yeah. Funny Marco just did a Breakfast Club interview. They was like, who helped you, you know, navigate, you know, you're going on stage and stuff like that. He said, I call Ryan Davis for advice. That's my legacy more than anything, is that my peers respect me enough to feel like they can learn from me, no matter what the level of my- You feel like they can call you. They don't know.
They're like, you know what? I might not know, but Ryan knows. And if he doesn't know, he'll find out and get back to me. Yeah, and everybody needs that person. Yes. And the person is never who people think it is. When you see Funny Marco and his huge success and Country Wayne and his huge success and they're like, who do they go to for advice?
I know people would have wrote down a lot of names before they wrote down mine. Correct. And then if like I stubbed my toe or hit my head and or I put out these pieces of content where it was like, man, you shouldn't have done that. It's a guy named Naeem Lynn who tours with Kevin Hart and he has a show with Tyler Perry that's doing well. That's who checks me every single time.
Naeem Lynn has the best advice in the world. That's who helped me navigate this space without me asking. I'll put out something and he'll come straight up and hit me and be like, I'm not telling you what to do, but look at it from this perspective. And I thank you. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. Because I would have bumped my head a lot harder on the way up.
I know I've lost opportunities running my mouth for sure. For sure. You had to learn the hard way. I learned the hard way. You don't everything for you to talk about. Go talk to your friends about it. You said to the mother of your children, Wayne lied. I said I made $20, not $20,000. Yeah, boy, what? Hey, Wayne be messing up your pockets, man.
Man, that man said he got on the podcast and when he said, yeah, I was like, dang, Wayne, thank you for sharing, man. But I didn't realize, I forgot about his reach. Soon as he said that, my damn boy, hey man, teach me how to make money online. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Chapter 8: How does Ryan's journey in comedy reflect his personal growth?
That's not what I do. That's my friend. Right. But Wayne, why did you say I made $20,000 off the internet? My baby mama watched this. And I don't use the term baby mama. The mother of my children. Yeah. Your co-parent. My co-parent. She watches this. Yes. She know I ain't broke, but I don't think she know that I'm. I got it like this.
I got it like that because she know I make tour money because I'm always on the road. She know like supplemental income look like. They're like, what are you doing? Yeah. So, nah, but me and her, I have a great co-parenting relationship. Now, it's so tough. Early on, it is tough. And you're both young. Yeah, it's so tough. And you both want to be right. Yeah. That's the hardest part.
And it's a lot harder to be more right than them. Because you don't realize you tugging, but you're not pulling at each other, you're pulling at the child. Yeah. And that was the hardest thing, but I want to be right. Her need to be right was greater than mine. She probably would say your need to be right was greater than hers. Nah, she can be honest. It depends on how mad she is.
If she's not mad, she can be honest about it. Right. The things, like she just, she's just like I'm mellow. She's on the opposite side. It's a volcano. Well, that's why you guys worked at the beginning. That's why we worked. Yeah. So, but like we're just working through like getting our custody agreement together now.
You know, and I told you I'm going to be more candid on here than I've ever been. I never talk about my co-parenting situation, but whenever... Me, I have two children. I have an eight-year-old son and a 10-year-old daughter. She's about to turn 11. And it's been rough. I've been there every step of the way financially.
I haven't always been there the way that I should have physically, but I wasn't always allowed to be there like I could have been physically too. But those are the sacrifices that you got to make because it all depends on how successful are you trying to be. It is hard because the greater the goal, the greater the sacrifice needed to reach said goal.
And nobody talks about what it is to be in this space physically. I appreciate people like Kevin Hart and others who give candid interviews because nobody prepares you for what it is to fly to a city. a bunch of people, to a city you've never been to, a bunch of people paid, got dressed to go enjoy what it is that you do.
You enjoy what you do, you love what you do, you take that money home and you give it back to your children and their mother for them to have a better life, but you But the children don't feel as close because you're going to do this thing. She feels abandoned or feel like she's doing it on her own. Because even if you're doing it financially, you can't supplement time. No.
And when you're carrying the load financially, you don't want to hear nobody talk about it. how you not doing your, what? You're taking care of three households. Exactly. I'm not doing my part. It's hard for you to, yeah, it's hard for you to see. Because time is the most valuable commodity. It's the most valuable commodity.
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