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Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Brown SABOTAGING Shedeur + Shilo EJECTED + Rashan Gary joins
24 Aug 2025
Chapter 1: What happened in Shedeur Sanders' final preseason game?
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Chapter 2: Why didn't Kevin Stefanski let Shedeur finish the game?
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Chapter 3: What insights does Rashan Gary provide about the Packers?
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Chapter 4: Why was Shilo Sanders ejected during the game?
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Chapter 5: How do emotions affect players' decisions on the field?
Later, Packers defensive end Rashawn Gary joins us in a bit. But first, Ocho, but first, should do our final preseason game. He was 3 of 6, 14 yards, 41 yards, lost on five sacks. I know you watched this game as I did. I want to hear what you have to say first.
Well, first of all, listen, George Sanders didn't play bad. Chat, those that follow me on Twitter, you happy? There it is. He didn't play well. He didn't play well. He played bad. Obviously, he stunk it up. But let me clarify why he stunk it up. Let me give you a little insight.
Chapter 6: What are the implications of Shiloh's ejection for his career?
So he comes in in the third quarter. Am I correct, Uncle? The third quarter. Yes. Okay, boom. So the players that are playing in the third quarter, Excuse me if I'm wrong. You can do your homework. Will those players make the 53-man roster?
A lot of them will not.
A lot of them will not make the 53-man roster.
Most of them will not.
Exactly. So again, I'm all for quarterback competition. But if you're going to put him in a situation that is not advantageous to him and competing at a high level, boom.
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Chapter 7: How does Rashan Gary plan to improve his performance this season?
Let's give him a chance. Let's give him a chance with the play calling. You know you have an offensive line that isn't playing that well. So what do we do? Why not just play the short game so we can get the ball out of his hands very fast to run a competent goddamn offense?
Purposely running plays that are 10, 12, 15-yard routes, knowing damn well the goddamn offensive line is not going to be able to hold up is ridiculous. It's clear. I played football for a very long time. I played NFL at a very high level for a very, very long time.
I understand in a situation like that, when it comes to the threes and fours that you're playing with that aren't going to be, that aren't going to be on the squad and not going to make the team, give your quarterback a chance. Okay, you know what? You know they can't hold up that long? Let's play quick game. Let's play quick game just to get Shador in a goddamn rhythm.
But no, you come out, call the regular offensive plays that are very long, damn near play action if he was under center, knowing they take a while to develop, knowing good and goddamn well the O-line and the people you have out there right now are not going to be able to hold up.
Outside of that, Shador has to be better in understanding that the offensive line that you're working with right now is not adequate. Get the ball out your hands. Get the ball out to him, but he's holding the ball for one reason. He's holding the ball because the goddamn players aren't open.
He's waiting for things to develop, which is why he's holding the ball and trying to make something happen by holding on to it, by scrambling, moving, obviously running out of area, running out of real estate, and being sacked.
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Chapter 8: What strategies do players use to control their emotions during games?
I'm not sure what game you guys are watching. Again, I state, Shadur did play bad. He did. But why he played bad is clear as day if you understand the game of football and what he had to work with. Kevin Stefanski, not let Shadur come back in the game to finish the two-minute drill. Oh, I've never seen that before. I've never in my life ever have seen anything like that before. What are we doing?
What are we doing? No disrespect to Snoop Hundley. Snoop is probably not going to be on the team. He's probably not going to be on the team. So I'm not sure what you were waiting to look. Snoop was on the team simply because quarterbacks were injured. So they brought in the extra body. I not allow the players that are competing for a job.
In this instance, Shador Sanders, the finish off the two minute drill. What are we doing? Who makes that call? He makes that call. Why? Because I want the last thing people to see. I want the last people, the last thing for people to remember is the mistakes and the sacks that happened and not give him a chance to redeem himself. Because I think probably what would happen. Okay.
We can't have to do a come in here and finish this two minute drive and go down and get a touchdown. We don't want that. So we're going to leave him on the sideline. So it leaves a bad taste in those mouths. So now there's nothing that they can say.
There's nothing that they can say because now you got a small sample size of him playing with people that are probably not going to be on the team in their bio on Twitter going to say former.
man come on man but okay i i can't wait to hear your piece and and in chat for those of you who are listening and watching i'm not making any excuses for him he played bad he played bad but i can tell you why he played bad i mean if you know the game of football and understand the game of football understand that those that are in there with him during that time i'm not going to be able to go ahead man i agree with everything you said he did play bad and
You and I, we come out here and we're on, we talk four or five nights a week, sometimes six nights a week. We've gone six straight nights. We've gone nine straight days before. And what we do, we tell it like it is. Like my grandma say, boy, tell it like it is. We tell it like it is. Shadur did not play well today. He played awful. Everything that you said is true.
Shadur, you know this offensive line is not competent enough to give you protection. And I understand it says, Ochoa, I'm in competition. I saw what Dylan Gabriel did with the guys that's probably gonna be on the team. I'm trying to match that. But what happened is, is that they didn't give him the necessary pieces in order to match this.
If you want me to fight, if you want me to win a war, give me the weapons. You can't expect me to win a modern war with muskets and cannons. They use drones now. They use stuff with precision, pinpoint accuracy. So you're expecting me to win a modern game and you're giving me old time. That won't work. So Shadur has to do a better job of getting the ball out of his hands. Ocho, he has some time.
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