The Spy in the Bag: Who Killed Gareth Williams?

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Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore 1h 10m 4 speakers 3 chapters transcribed 2 months ago
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Carter Roy 0:01
The moment a body is found, the clock starts ticking. 48 hours before the trail goes cold. From A&E and Crime House, this is the official podcast from the famous true crime series, The First 48. I'm Carter Roy. Every Thursday, I revisit a landmark homicide investigation in depth. with long-form storytelling built for your ears listen to and follow the first 48 on apple podcasts spotify amazon music or wherever you listen to podcasts this is crime house
Kaelyn (Kaylin) Moore 0:48
A police officer is called to do a wellness check on an MI6 spy who's been missing for a week. And what he finds when he enters the apartment is baffling.
Morgan Absher 0:57
Gareth Williams, the person he was supposed to be doing the wellness check on, is locked in a duffel bag in his bathroom. But as the investigation unfolds, it is not what it seems. What looks like a suicide could just be a murder.
Morgan Absher 1:23
Hi guys, welcome back to Clues, where we sneak past the crime scene tape to explore the key evidence behind some of the most gripping true crime cases.
Kaelyn (Kaylin) Moore 1:29
I'm Kaylin Moore, and I'll be the one digging deeper into the timelines, the backstories, and the court files released on these cases.
Morgan Absher 1:34
And I'm your internet sleuth, Morgan Absher. I'm the one who's diving into the Reddit forums to talk about lesser known details and just pull out those threads that don't add up. Don't forget to share your thoughts on social. Want ad-free and early access to clues and the rest of the Crime House lineup? Subscribe to Crime House Plus and get at least two bonus episodes from across Crime House every month. To join, go to crimehouseplus.com, or if you listen on Apple Podcasts, tap Try Free at the top of the Clues page. Now, let's get into Gareth Williams' case and the clues that defined it.
Kaelyn (Kaylin) Moore 2:08
Okay, so I have a recommendation before we dive in. You must. You must because we were talking about this at lunch. We were talking about this at lunch. The last episode that we recorded is the Chloe Ayling case where she was kidnapped and this guy pretended he was part of this big criminal organization. The Black Death. The Black Death. If you watched that episode and are looking for something else, and also if you watch this one and you're looking for something else, I did an episode on Heart Starts Pounding. I did a two-part series in February of 2024 on Sandra Clifton's disappearance and And that case is very similar to the Chloe Ayling one in the sense of it was this guy who was like telling people in his life that he had a lot more power than he actually did.
Kaelyn (Kaylin) Moore 2:46
He convinced a woman to just self isolate in an apartment for years, thinking that if she left the apartment, someone was going to kill her because he told her he worked with MI6 and that he was a spy. And really, he was just like a normal guy. But. That story was crazy. So it's the I did a series. It's called Love and Lies, part one and two. There's Sandra Clifton and then the captor. But it's a really, really interesting story.
Morgan Absher 3:09
It's so insane. That's why I'm like, there's so many stories out there that are so unbelievable and yet real. Like it's it's clear it happened. It's real. I know. Today's case is another one.
Kaelyn (Kaylin) Moore 3:22
It's one of those, I mean, not to call it a head-scratcher, but it really, to me it is. It's one that I, it just doesn't make any sense.
Morgan Absher 3:30
No.

What happened when police discovered Gareth Williams’ body in a padlocked duffel bag?

Morgan Absher 3:31
And there's so many clues and evidence and reenactments, and it's like, I spiraled. I was like, how could it be this? But then there's this piece of evidence, so... I would love to know your takes and your thoughts as we go through this. And what is one piece of evidence that we talk about today that just convinced you it's this or convinced you it's that? I'm not trying to give you guys any crazy spoilers, but this is a doozy of a case.
Kaelyn (Kaylin) Moore 3:58
Yes. And so you guys, we are definitely going to need your feedback. But if you're watching this on YouTube, you're going to see some pictures and images that will kind of help you visualize what we're talking about. And if you're listening, you can also find those same assets on our Instagram. That's at Clues Podcast. You should follow us there.

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