David Urbach is a bariatric surgeon and health services research at Women's College Hospital in Toronto, Ontario. We had a wide ranging discussion with him where we talked checklist, the impact of the word "cancer" on patient decision-making, wait-times in Canada in the face of COVID, and medical devices in surgery.1. David Urbach and colleagues on "Introduction of Surgical Safety Checklists in Ontario, Canada": https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa13082612. Is WHO’s surgical safety checklist being hyped? Commentary from David Urbach and Justin Dimick in BJS. https://www.bmj.com/content/366/bmj.l47003. Impact of the word "cancer" in thyroid nodules paper: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaoncology/article-abstract/27288104. wait times in Canada. Dr. Urbach's Op-ed in "The Province": https://theprovince.com/opinion/op-ed/dr-david-urbach-how-to-shorten-hospital-wait-times-in-canada5. Centralized intake system in Edmonton. Facilitated Access to Surgical Treatment (FAST) program in Edmonton: https://www.albertahealthservices.ca/findhealth/Service.aspx?id=1080550&serviceAtFacilityID=11259386. David Urbach Canadian Journal of Surgery editorial, "Heroes, citizens, and the shoulders of giants": http://canjsurg.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/63-2-E118.pdf

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