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An immigration crackdown gone wrong. What do we know?

08 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What happened in Minneapolis involving ICE officers?

0.807 - 17.703 Mary Louise Kelly

Today in Minneapolis, an Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer shot and killed a woman. The Department of Homeland Security described the woman as a violent rioter who attempted to run over law enforcement officers. Here's Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem.

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18.063 - 27.372 Kristi Noem

This goes to show the assaults that our ICE officers and our law enforcement are under every single day. These vehicle rammings are domestic acts of terrorism.

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28.06 - 34.326 Mary Louise Kelly

But the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Fry, a Democrat, says the video paints a different picture.

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34.807 - 52.064 Jacob Frey

I myself saw a video of the shots being fired as the car was driving away. What I can tell you is the narrative that this was just done in self-defense is a garbage narrative. That is not true.

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53.145 - 66.066 Mary Louise Kelly

Consider this an immigration crackdown gone wrong. What do we know? From NPR, I'm Mary Louise Kelly.

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91.088 - 100.796 Ira Glass

This is Ira Glass. On This American Life, one thing we like is a good mystery. Sometimes about really big things, but most times, the little mysteries are the best.

101.097 - 106.101 Matt Sepik

Our lost and found is currently filled with pants. I don't know, I've never seen this happen.

106.561 - 107.242 Mary Louise Kelly

Wait, this is true?

Chapter 2: What are the conflicting narratives surrounding the shooting?

131.083 - 152.23 Mary Louise Kelly

On Wednesday morning in Minneapolis, a 37-year-old woman was shot dead by a federal immigration officer. The circumstances around the shooting are hotly disputed. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said the woman attacked federal immigration officers and attempted to ram them with her vehicle.

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152.21 - 177.326 Mary Louise Kelly

A DHS statement says an ICE officer feared for his life and for public safety and fired defensive shots. Minnesota politicians who have seen the video of the incident strongly contradict this account. Joining us from Minneapolis is reporter Matt Sepik of Minnesota Public Radio. Hey there, Matt. Hi, Mary Louise. Start with just the backdrop here. ICE has been on the ground.

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177.346 - 185.052 Mary Louise Kelly

They've been in Minneapolis last year, now again at the beginning of this year. So update from there to what happened this morning?

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185.774 - 209.217 Matt Sepik

Video shows a maroon Honda SUV blocking Portland Avenue. This is a one-way street south of downtown Minneapolis. Federal agents are heard telling the driver, ma'am, get out of the car. The footage taken by a witness shows one federal officer walk around the right side of the car and around the front. Moments later, two other agents walk up to the driver's side. One tries to open the door and

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209.483 - 225.923 Matt Sepik

At this point, the driver begins to reverse on the icy street. As the officer hangs on the door, the driver begins to drive away from the scene. And then an officer in front of the SUV appears to fire into the car three times. The driver was pronounced dead at a hospital.

226.103 - 246.195 Matt Sepik

At a news conference this afternoon, Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara described the deceased as a 37-year-old white woman. He said that she was not the subject of any immigration actions. This incident comes as the Department of Homeland Security is stepping up immigration enforcement in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area with what the department says is 2,000 agents.

246.596 - 249.902 Matt Sepik

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem visited the area yesterday.

250.49 - 257.619 Mary Louise Kelly

Okay, and then what is the Trump administration? What is their account of what happened this morning? Because so far they've said the shooting was justified.

258.54 - 277.324 Matt Sepik

Administration officials immediately tried to take control of the narrative. On social media, DHS called the woman a, quote, violent rioter who, quote, weaponized her vehicle. The agency says the ICE agent fired in self-defense. The president also posted on his website saying the woman was obviously a professional agitator.

Chapter 3: How did local officials react to the ICE incident?

673.946 - 706.152 Mary Louise Kelly

Thank you so much. Brian O'Hara is Minneapolis Police Chief. Thank you. This episode was produced by Michael Levitt, Daniel Offman, and Karen Zamora, with audio engineering by Ted Meebane. It was edited by Cheryl Corley, Ahmad Dahman, Jeanette Woods, and Courtney Dorning. Our executive producer is Sammy Yenigan. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Mary Louise Kelly.

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