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Consider This from NPR

What's Israel doing in southern Lebanon?

30 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the current situation in southern Lebanon?

0.622 - 20.189 Lauren Frayer

People in southern Lebanon are living through a war within a war. The war is, of course, the U.S.-Israeli campaign against Iran. The war within Lebanon started with a series of strikes by the militant group Hezbollah. They launched rockets and drones from Lebanon into Israel, and Israel has responded with strikes in Lebanon.

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20.77 - 38.998 Lauren Frayer

And with that, a conflict that has flared on and off for decades reignited. NPR met one man evacuating his home in a Beirut suburb during this round of strikes. He said he and his family were forced to flee during the last round of fighting just two years ago. The Lebanese health ministry...

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Chapter 2: How did Hezbollah's strikes spark a new conflict?

39.248 - 68.304 Lauren Frayer

says some 1,200 people have been killed by this latest war. Now Israel is mounting a widening invasion and ordering residents to leave. Nearly one million people have been displaced inside the country. The goal, according to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, is to finally thwart the threat of invasion. Consider this.

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68.324 - 79 Lauren Frayer

Israel's invasion of southern Lebanon is rapidly widening and could outlast the war in Iran. The people fleeing their homes don't know when or if they'll be allowed back.

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83.507 - 107.916 Scott Detrow

From NPR, I'm Scott Detrow. This week on the NPR Politics Podcast. In Iran, President Trump is both escalating and de-escalating, pausing strikes on energy sites, claiming Iran wants to make a deal, but also moving troops to the region. We unpack what we know about where those troops are headed and how talks are playing out behind closed doors. This week on the NPR Politics Podcast.

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117.278 - 131.76 Lauren Frayer

It's Consider This from NPR. For a lot of people in Lebanon right now, home isn't home. It's a soccer stadium or a school or a tent. NPR's Lauren Frayer has been talking to some of these people whose lives have been upended. She has this story from southern Lebanon.

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Schools like this one in the southern town of Jezin have been repurposed into shelters. Kids playing soccer, adults sitting on the curb, chain smoking, scanning evacuation orders, Israel puts out on social media. At first, Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz said his troops would accelerate the destruction of homes in southern Lebanon in accordance with a Gaza model.

157.53 - 160.414 Ramzi Haiss

We are going to model a house in Hanun and a house in Gaza.

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and take Lebanese territory up to the Latani River, which runs east-west, varying about 10 to 20 miles north of the current border. A few days later, though, Israel ordered residents to move 10 miles beyond that, north of another river called the Zahrani. Now Netanyahu's threat to widen this invasion without specifics is causing more confusion here. There's fear and exhaustion in everyone's eyes.

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We took it from the beginning of the invasion. People are fleeing north in waves with every new Israeli threat, every new strike, the school principal, Colette Sleem, tells me, as warplanes roar overhead. Her school filled up in the first wave, she says, and is now forced to turn people away.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of Israel's widening invasion?

250.278 - 257.327 Ramzi Haiss

For example, in the first day of the escalation to over 50 villages, by the second day it was over 100 villages and towns.

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I meet Joseph Elias Issa in a shepherd's shack in the forest. He's fled the town of Kfar Hune just south of here. He huddles around a wood-burning stove, his head wrapped in a keffiyeh. He says he was raised on that land, makes a living on that land. In his 56 years, he's lived through almost every war with Israel on that land. But now he wonders if he will ever be able to go home.

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This time, Israel's defense minister says what he calls a buffer zone will remain until the security of Israel's northern residents is guaranteed. Human Rights Watch's Heiss says that's forced displacement to possible war crimes.

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302.819 - 311.996 Ramzi Haiss

You cannot tie people's return to their homes to some vague safety guarantee that you decide people must be allowed to return to their homes once the hostilities cease.

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In his forest shack, Issa describes hearing airstrikes as he fled, driving his mules northward in a truck through destruction.

Chapter 4: How are civilians being affected by the conflict?

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Uphill through the olive and citrus groves. From this hill, I can look down towards the Zahrani River. That's the zone where Israeli forces have ordered people to evacuate north of. And even beyond that, to the Latani, where Israel has said it wants to make a new border, below which it wants to take Lebanese territory.

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We're worried this region will no longer be Lebanese, says Paul Khresh, a municipal official in a village called Ain Ebel near the Israeli border. NPR reached him by phone. It was too dangerous to visit. He said he doesn't know whether to stay or go. The roads keep getting hit by airstrikes. But if the border is moved, he could end up under Israeli occupation. That's happened before.

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375.5 - 379.564 David Elhelou

Israel reached the Litani River back in 1978.

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David Elhelou is the mayor of Jazin. He's old enough to recall how Israel occupied southern Lebanon through the 80s and 90s.

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387.733 - 391.416 David Elhelou

There were a checkpoint like two kilometers from here.

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Back then, Israel was battling Palestinian militants. Now it's Hezbollah. I ask him if he feels like history is repeating itself, and if he thinks Israel's no-go zone might expand northward into his town.

404.947 - 415.137 David Elhelou

Things can go wrong anytime. You can never be sure when it's going to end, which direction it's going to take, what's going to happen. Yeah, the fear is always there.

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Does this time feel different than the past?

417.94 - 420.342 David Elhelou

I don't know. I have a feeling that this time looks more serious.

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