New Age Conspirituality

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What is conspirituality in New Age culture?

Disturbed Podcast Narrator 0:00
What's your zodiac sign? Chances are, you know the answer. Even if you don't consider yourself spiritual in any way, you may check your horoscope from time to time. Had your palm read? Maybe you've even held onto a cool-looking crystal that a friend gave you. Put it somewhere as decoration. Not because you believe it has spiritual powers, but because it couldn't hurt, right? Of course not. If it makes you feel better, that's great. Aside from the dust it collects, it's not causing any harm. But not all New Age ideas are considered the same. New Age belief systems and conspiracy theories are so often blended together that two academics coined the term conspirituality. The distance between tarot cards and a new world order run by alien lizard people may be a lot shorter than you think. Take Amy Carlson, for example.

Who was Amy Carlson and what role did she play?

Leah Sottile 1:04
It became really disturbing for me to understand that Amy created this belief system. She created this group. It was almost like a game of Dungeons and Dragons, right? Where she was like the dungeon master and she's coming up with all the rules and people are playing it her way. But when she said, time out, like I need to go to a hospital, the people in her game kept her in it. They just provided her with more of the same thing that actually was killing her.
Disturbed Podcast Narrator 1:33
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Steve Fishman 2:34
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Carter Roy 2:41
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Disturbed Podcast Narrator 2:59
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Joe Loya 3:05
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Disturbed Podcast Narrator 3:38
Amy Carlson spends her teenage years growing up in the suburbs outside of Dallas, Texas.
Leah Sottile 3:44
a very typical movie teenage suburban upbringing. Good family, two sisters, really supported in anything she wanted to do. The type of kid who would get a car when she turned 16, that kind of family. Amy was really into singing and into, you know, looking her best, being very presentable. She competed in choir competitions, things of that nature.
Disturbed Podcast Narrator 4:11
That's journalist and author Leah Satilli, whose book Blazing Eye Sees All takes a magnifying glass to American New Age culture, its history, and the impact of modern leaders like Amy Carlson.
Leah Sottile 4:26
As her story goes forward in time, she has her first child when she's pretty young, you know, 18 or 19 years old. And the relationship doesn't really work out. She's not a very welcoming mother in that motherhood doesn't really fit her. Her son, Cole, who is her oldest child, just remembers her being very distant, crying a lot, not really wanting to have a lot to do with him.

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