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The Kinross Incident: Did a UFO Abduct an Entire Jet?

21 May 2025

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In 1953, an Air Force jet took off from Michigan’s Kinross Air Force Base in pursuit of an unknown aircraft, or bogey. As the jet approached the mystery aircraft, the two dots representing them on a radarscope appeared to merge – just before the jet vanished.For years, ufologists have theorized that the bogey was of extraterrestrial origin.Today, we’re talking to two researchers from the Open Skies Project – Zach Garner and Kyle Kary – who’ve been digging into declassified files and other documents related to the Kinross Incident.See their research and follow along with their work on the Calumet Air Force Station at openskiesproject.org Keep up with us on Instagram @theconspiracypod! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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2.677 - 31.918 Carter Roy

It's November 23rd, 1953, a bitterly cold night along the waters of Michigan's Upper Peninsula. At Kinross Air Force Base, radar picks up an unidentified aircraft flying over Lake Superior. Two lieutenants take off on an intercept mission. They're charged with finding out who or what they're dealing with. But somewhere along the way, the entire jet vanishes.

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33.069 - 63.616 Carter Roy

The Kinross incident is a story ufologists know well. For decades, there's been speculation that a UFO encounter caused the disappearance. A theory popularized in the 1955 book, The Flying Saucer Conspiracy. Military officials said the jet simply crashed into Lake Superior. But in recent years, members of the Open Skies Project have been amassing research about the Kinross incident.

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64.704 - 90.948 Carter Roy

What they've found suggests there's more to the story and raises some important questions. Welcome to Conspiracy Theories, a Spotify podcast. I'm Carter Roy. You can find us here every Wednesday. Be sure to check us out on Instagram at The Conspiracy Pod, and we would love to hear from you. So if you're listening on the Spotify app, swipe up and give us your thoughts.

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91.857 - 105.487 Carter Roy

Today, we're talking to Kyle Carey and Zach Garner of the Open Skies Project about the research they've gathered, which was integral to this episode. And we're thrilled they could be here. Stay with us.

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105.507 - 117.416 Steve Fishman

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118.016 - 126.241 Joe Loya

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144.932 - 149.755 Steve Fishman

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151.533 - 178.214 Carter Roy

Just one day after the Kinross incident in November 1953, newspapers run the story of the missing Air Force jet and two men on board. Some play up the mysterious circumstances. Other reports are less cryptic. They assert it's just a tragic accident. that the pilot, Felix Monclaw, and the radar operator, Robert Wilson, died when their jet crashed into Lake Superior.

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