Agriland/ICMSA Farmer Survey: Panel
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What does the Agriland/ICMSA survey reveal about farmers planning to leave?
Well, the survey I mentioned earlier was commissioned by AgriLand and the ICMSA, the Irish Creamery Milk Suppliers Association. And it shows that it isn't actually just older farmers who want out. One in five farmers in their late 40s and early 50s, which is young in the business, say they're also likely to leave. Half of those planning to exit have no successor lined up. And the same survey says access to land is one of the biggest. Barriers for people trying to get into farming. So why aren't those leaving and those wanting in finding each other? Well, to pick it all apart, I have three different perspectives from three guests. Dennis Drennan is president of the ICMSA. Patrick Brady manages the Land Mobility Service that was set up by Makra, which matches farmers stepping back with young farmers who are looking for land.
And it is the service that James and Thomas used. And Dan Murray. From South West Kerry is from Tolov Bio, a farm organization that represents small scale and agroecological farmers, and he's also the co founder of Tollive Oak. You're all very welcome, gentlemen. Dennis, I might start with you there. Back of an envelope calculation, one in three farmers, that's about forty four thousand people planning to leave in the next few years. You've called this a cliff edge. Is this basically get big or get out in action?
Uh no, good morning, good morning, good morning to all your listeners. Uh look at it's a very surprising, it was a very comprehensive survey. Uh the demographics of the survey, the geographical spread, the sectorial spread was almost perfect with CFCSO figures. So uh we've done this the survey in conjunction with agri agriculture and carried out with opinions and can be fully fully verified. So it's very frightening figures. The one in three you could probably accept in the sense that we've over forty percent of our farmers are beyond return. age. So we you would like to see them getting on and enjoying their retirement. But the more fighting figure I suppose w was the one in five between thirty five and fifty five.
You would imagine those would have been the people that would have been, you know, able to take advantage of other people getting out and maybe making their own holdings bigger and more viable and, you know, securing a future for them onto the his retirement age. But to have one in five of that age group is very worrying. And look at the uh uh the overwhelming reason for these people saying that they were going to exit is income volatility and it's something we've been highlighting for years. The boom to bust cycle of the commodity markets and the price that we get for a product is really hard for uh you know any young person to get in or any person with kids in college, mortgages to pay, repayments to make, it's uh it's a very difficult when you don't have a consistent and stable income here from year to year.
Um, Patrick, when a farm comes available and there is no successor, where does it usually end up?
Uh it usually ends up with um with us, hopefully. Uh and we will if they don't have an accessor, they will probably end up maybe leasing it, maybe entering a collaborative arrangement or in time then it may be sold.
And and often to a neighbour.
Often to a neighbour or maybe to a relative or it could be to an outside party, then depending on the scale or the size of the farm.
And and when you speak to these people, Patrick, what are they saying to you as to why they're getting out?
They're getting out maybe d due to age in in some cases, or or maybe that they've maybe worked hard for the past ten or twenty years and they've t they think it's time to retire. Or maybe it could be a family choice that maybe they want to see enjoy their retirement better with their family.
Um, Dan, just to go to you, I mean Dennis describes this Cliff Edge, but your organisation has long said that there are loads of people trying to get into farming, particularly young people, first time farmers. Can you just describe who is coming to you wanting to get into farming?
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