What Makes a Leader Irreplaceable in the World of AI | Carey Nieuwhof
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What are the biggest risks AI poses to human flourishing and mental health?
I think the mental health consequences of AI are gonna make the mental health consequences of social media look like the kiddie pull.
Hey, it's great to have you back for another episode of the Craig Rose Shell Leadership Podcast. You are going to be blessed today. I've got my good friend Kerry Newhoff on the podcast, who is a best-selling author, a speaker, and a former attorney. So he'll hold his own if I ask him hard questions. He hosts one of the most influential leadership podcasts that you can get anywhere. Been in ministry for 25 years. He's the founder of the Art of the Leadership. Leadership Academy. His new book is out, AI and the Future Church. Make your ministry irreplaceable in a world of artificial everything. I'm going to hold up the book for those of you that are watching. And uh it's great to have you on. Carrie, welcome to the Craig Rochelle Leadership Podcast.
Oh, it's a thrilled to be here. Thanks so much for having me, Craig.
Well, we've talked a lot offline about AI, and um I've been just a student of yours as you've done so much research into into the book. And so I want to dive right into it and just ask you the most controversial question that I could. What do you hate about AI? That's a great question.
I think well, probably the thing I'm I mean, there's all kinds of potential existential risks that come with this technology. I think the thing I d hate most about it is the potential impact on human flourishing. And that's everything from mental health to our financial well-being to Uh even what it could do to the environment, uh what happens if we get weaponized warfare, all guided by AI and not human decisions. So it's definitely got some upside, and you'll hear all about that from anybody who's got an investment in AI in Silicon Valley. Uh we could cure diseases, we could bring democratic education to everyone that's personalized so that everybody does better. On the other hand, I think it's got some existential risks that we're not thinking enough about.
And so I want to try to elevate a conversation around that and think through what kind of moment are we in. But yeah, I think it's got some. You know, if you go back 25 years, Craig, you remember when social media came out, we heard about Facebook, it was at Harvard, everyone thought, oh, that's kind of cool. And then they opened it up to the world and then Twitter. Twitter came along and then and then we got Instagram. And for a long time, I really believed that that technology was neutral. And I I taught this. I taught this. I said to parents, I don't think social media is inherently good or evil. I just think it reveals and amplifies what's already there. Technology is neutral, like a book. You can write poetry that's beautiful and art, or you can write hate literature.
It's neutral. I don't think 25 years into this, anybody thinks social media has a net positive on our minds, the next generation. And I think AI is gonna really intensify that. I think the mental health consequences of AI are gonna make the mental health consequences of social media look like the kiddie pool.
Uh it's interesting because we've we have talked a lot about this just because we're friends. And uh I like I have a love-hate relationship with AI. There's a there's a lot that I like about it and there's a lot that that um I don't like. There's a lot of reasons to be optimistic and then there's some reasons to be afraid. I in in your research was was there something that uh was disproportionately surprising to you that you didn't expect. Probably the biggest
Surprise, Craig, is that nobody fully understands this technology that's unfolding under our eyes. And AI CEOs, the Frontier Lab CEOs, have said this publicly: that if you're taking coding, for example. So we live through the whole wave of SaaS software as a service. My oldest son's a coder. If you're coding, I don't code, but I know this from coders I know. It's very predictable. If your software isn't working properly, it's because there's a bug in the system and you just go in and you repair the code and then everything works the way it's supposed to.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What are the biggest risks AI poses to human flourishing and mental health?
0:00–8:19
2
How does AI’s ‘recursive learning’ differ from traditional software bugs?
8:19–15:05
3
Why is understanding AI’s existential risks more urgent than ever?
15:05–21:59
4
How can leaders use AI to sharpen thinking without becoming lazy?
21:59–28:31
5
What practical AI tools help leaders analyze data and improve decision‑making?
28:31–36:02
6
How should organizations create AI policies to protect privacy and security?
36:02–42:19
7
In what ways can AI enhance human connection rather than replace it?
42:19–49:19
8
What actions can leaders take now to shape AI’s impact on future generations?
49:19–56:59
Speakers
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