6,000 LETTERS, THOUSANDS IN DONATIONS, BILLBOARDS RENTED, LUIGI MANGIONE FANS WONT STOP

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Nancy Grace 0:00
This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. The defense for the alleged assassin, Luigi Mangione, actually gets up in court and talks about how Mangione is the victim, actually claiming with a straight face that his, quote, beautiful, promising life has been derailed by those pesky murder charges. Wow. I wonder how the murder victim's family is feeling about right now. He's leaving behind a wife and two sons. And Luigi Mangione's defense team claims he's the victim. And I haven't even got started on what they are trying to have thrown out of evidence so a jury will never hear the truth.

What is the background of the Luigi Mangione case?

Nancy Grace 0:58
I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us.
Dr. Judy Ho 1:03
What is the address of your emergency? It's not really an emergency. I just, I have a customer here that some other customers were suspicious of that he looks like the CEO shooter from New York. Okay.
Nancy Grace 1:18
Straight out to Kayla Brantley joining us, investigative reporter at large, DailyMail.com. Did they actually say in court that their client, Luigi Mangione, is the victim because his, quote, beautiful, promising life has been derailed?
Kayla Brantley 1:36
Yeah, Nancy, as you mentioned, his team did paint him as someone with a promising future. Now, one thing that had been documented was that Luigi suffered from debilitating back pain. This was something that he went through. He went through back surgery. And one thing that they say here is that the real enemy here is the medical system. And that is one thing that you can definitely expect his legal team to argue.
Right.
Nancy Grace 2:03
Kayla, can I believe you or my lying eyes? Control room, please. Show me him running along the beach in Hawaii. I've got videos of him lifting up girls and tickling them. It's a video. They're all giggling hysterically, including him. I've got photos of him lounging by the beach. I'd love to see those photos of him hiking in what looks to be a jungle rainforest. Oh, he is feeling no pain there, Kayla Brantley. I hope you don't fall for that, hook, line, and seeker. Dr. Judy Ho. Did you know that Luigi Mangione is apparently the victim in this scenario? Dr. Judy Ho is joining us, clinical forensic neuropsychologist, author of The New Rules of Attachment and another bestseller, Stop Self-Sabotage. You need to write one, Dr. Judy Ho, about try to tell the truth.
Nancy Grace 2:56
And then send it, you know, I'll pay for it and we can send it to Luigi Mangione.

How does Luigi Mangione's defense team portray him as a victim?

Nancy Grace 3:00
He is not the victim here. But, you know, you can't count out the defense attorney Agnefello. He got Sean Combs off on the major accusations in that indictment. So no matter how ridiculous I may think he sounds. He essentially won that case. Yes, it's his defense team that claims Luigi Mangione is the victim. I want to read it, Dr. Judy Ho. Beautiful, promising life derailed by those irritating murder charges, Judy.
Cheryl McCollum 3:34
Wow, beautiful, promising life, Nancy. What a narrative. And as you said, even though he's not the victim, I think this is why there has been a fan base though, because there's these individuals who actually believe maybe he is a victim, that he's some type of anti-hero, that he's misunderstood. And oftentimes we see this in individuals who might act charismatically. They just seem to pull people in. And it's weird because a lot of these people who develop this sort of fan fanhood around Luigi, they're kind of thinking, well, maybe I can be a special person. in his life. Maybe he'll pay attention to me. Maybe I can even develop a friendship with this person. This person might learn to trust me. It's really interesting, but some of it actually has to do with a self-centeredness of people who might actually talk to him, that they're hoping to get something special out of it for themselves.
Nancy Grace 4:28
I'm sorry, Dr. Judy Ho, I know you're the clinical and forensic neuropsychologist, but I don't even know what you just said.

What evidence is being challenged in court and why?

Nancy Grace 4:35
How can the defense stand up and say, this is not about THE MURDER VICTIM. CAN WE SHOW, PLEASE, BRIAN THOMPSON WALKING ALONG AND HE'S GUNNED DOWN IN COLD BLOOD, LEAVING BEHIND TWO SONS AND A WIFE.

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