Crime Stories with Nancy Grace
RODEO QUEEN GIRLFRIEND SAYS PATRICK FRAZEE BASHED FIANCE HEAD WITH BAT, NOW HE DEMANDS CONVICTION BE REVERSEDBE RE
31 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Guaranteed human. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Her body was never found. Her little girl is being raised without her mother or a father. Why? Because Kelsey Barrett was murdered, her body burned. By who? Patrick Frazee, with the help of his then-mistress, the Rodeo Queen, literally. In the last days, Frazee back in court. Why won't he go away?
Chapter 2: What happened to Kelsey Barrett on Thanksgiving Day?
I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us. In the last days, the Colorado Supreme Court upholds the conviction of a Teller County man guilty in murdering his fiancée, the mother of his child, his fiancée, Kelsey Barrett, last seen at a Woodland Park Safeway Thanksgiving Day. She was speaking to her mom on the phone about recipes.
Her phone then pinged in Gooding, Idaho, days later. Now, years later, her body still has not been found. Why? I think because Patrick Frazee burned it. And of course, Frazee appeals his conviction. What do we know about the facts and the evidence that landed him behind bars?
thanksgiving is the last known time kelsey barrett was seen in public it was at this safeway store where she was captured by the store's security cameras cheryl barrett says she spoke with kelsey by phone that day twice what did you talk about that day it was just small things and initially she needed a recipe based on that conversation there was nothing to make you believe there was anything wrong exactly yeah her voice was fine she was yeah she was and it was a normal day for her
Where is a missing mom, Kelsey Barrett? The search intensifies as the mystery deepens. Right now, tick-tock, tick-tock, every hour counts. there is a chance she can still be brought back alive. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. Joining me, Ashley Wilcott, judge, lawyer. You can find her at AshleyWilcott.com.
Karen Smith, forensics expert, joining us out of the Florida jurisdiction. Forensic psychiatrist, Dr. Daniel Bober. And joining me right now, CrimeOnline.com investigative reporter, Ellen Killorn. Let's start at the beginning. What happened to Chelsea? Tell me everything. Give me the beginning of the timeline, Ellen, because that's what's so important.
Kelsey disappeared on November 22nd, which is Thanksgiving Day. We know that on that day, she went to a Safeway supermarket near her home in Woodland Park, Colorado. She had her one-year-old daughter with her there. After that, she met with her fiancé, Patrick Frazee, who she doesn't live with, and handed off her daughter. She has not been seen since.
The only time that she's been heard from, two messages were sent from her cell phone on Monday, November 25th. One was to her fiancé, and we don't know what that message said. And another was to her employer, DOS Aviation, where she works as a flight instructor. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait. Ellen Killoran, CrimeOnline.com.
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Chapter 3: How did Patrick Frazee's actions lead to his conviction?
Are you telling me she actually spoke verbally to her employer or texted or emailed? No, it was a text message sent from her phone. Okay, now wait. I thought you said the last person she spoke to was the fiancé and the employer. They were both text messages. So she spoke to nobody then? Say that? She spoke to nobody other than her mother previously?
Yes.
the last voice conversation that her mother had with her was on Thanksgiving Day and she saw her fiance in person later that day so the last person she actually spoke with was her mother several days before she goes missing Ellen Kaloran my dear sweet precious snowflake Ellen You know what? Let me, Karen Smith, why do I always have to be the bad guy?
Can you explain to Ellen why every word counts? It's very important. Did she speak to somebody the day she goes missing? Or was it a text from her phone, which guess what? Nobody can find. Karen's school, my dear Ellen Killoran. I don't think I need to school Ellen, but I'll tell you what. Or you may need to take her to the woodshed. Having text messages rather than a vocal call. I mean, come on.
This is law enforcement and forensics 101. A text message can be sent by anybody who has access to that phone. If it's not passcode enforced, if you have a thumbprint that actually you have access to because you put your thumbprint on that phone when it was unlocked at some point, it's not that difficult anymore. So if it's only text messages, we don't know who sent them.
They're going to have to go into that phone once they find it and figure out where those text messages were actually sent from. And that leads me to another forensic point. Hold on, Ashley Wilcott. I know you're chomping at the bit. Dr. Daniel Bober, forensic psychiatrist. Let's go into the mind of someone that would get rid of Chelsea, a mother of a little baby girl. OK, get rid of her.
And then this is my question. Think to use her phone to cover their tracks and text the boyfriend, the fiance, text the employer and go, oh, I'm taking a week off. That's a whole nother animal from somebody flying off the handle and. Getting mad at a bar and go, you took my money, bam, you're dead.
Versus killing somebody, disposing of the body, and then making all these surreptitious texts and emails to cover your tracks. That's a whole different way of thinking, Dr. Bober.
I agree, Nancy. It's on a whole different level. But like your previous guest said, those text messages are going to be valuable because with text messages, unlike with vocal communication, You know, there is going to be the amount of texting, the words that were actually used.
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Chapter 4: What evidence links Frazee to Kelsey's disappearance?
And, you know, people that are familiar with her are going to know the way that she communicates. And so there's, I think, a treasure trove of information potentially there in those text messages.
Okay. Ellen Kaloran, are you embarrassed? Because I'm embarrassed for you. I am. Okay, good. Now that you've been totally publicly shamed, now I need some facts from you. It's really important, and I'm kidding around a tiny bit, but it really is crucial. It's crucial when you're trying to establish a timeline, which is where everything starts.
Every investigation starts with a timeline, and the forensics surround that timeline. So let's talk about these. The last time she was seen was how many days before she was reported missing?
Ten days.
Ten days. Okay, just give me short, brief answers. So we got ten days. Darn, that's a long time.
into that 10 days when did the texts come in number one and were they pinged and if so from where the text came in on november 25th which is three days after she was last seen okay so hold on jackie's editing this the text came in three days after she went missing okay got it three days after she went missing she texts fiance and employer is that correct ellen
That's right.
So both of them were texted in one day. That's right.
Interesting. And on the same day, her phone was pinged in Idaho, about 600 miles away from where she lived. But authorities have said they can't confirm that she was actually with her phone at the time.
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Chapter 5: Where was Kelsey Barrett last seen before her disappearance?
This girl is no idiot. She's a flight instructor. Isn't that right, Ellen Killoran? She's a flight instructor? That's right. I mean, this woman can get up in a plane and fly around and teach other people. She's no idiot, but she loses her phone. Well, maybe, maybe she had some freak out of, I need to take a little break. That's my prayer. Okay. So go back to the reality. Ashley, I'm back on you.
I'm on you like a cheap suit, a girl that wants a break. Okay.
this is let's look at what we know and i may have to go back to the shrink on this one ashley wilcott a woman that's calling her mom for a recipe is not a woman who's going to leave her mom hanging out in the wind doesn't know where you are worried sick about you not not taking care of your baby girl no i mean you see the dichotomy there right like i call my mother i call miss talbert from my little methodist church in macon
various people for recipes okay because i love them and their knowledge means something to me those are the people you love that you call for recipes ashley okay so now nancy's embarrassed me because you're right i'm so happy i've caused so much misery today go ahead So here's the thing about the texts on the phone and not knowing if the phone's with her. We see it all.
So regrettably, someone could easily think, oh, I'm just going to text this person and this person or text the boyfriend so they think she's fine and that gives me more time with her. We don't know if she's dead, if she's been abducted and she's being held somewhere. So it is not outside the realm of possibilities. Well, let me give you all something to think about.
And Maul, why did the fiance put up a stink about giving DNA?
Kelsey's fiance, Patrick Frazee, told police he last saw her Thanksgiving afternoon when he picked up their daughter. Kelsey was not reported missing until 10 days later by her mother.
Patrick has done everything that he has been asked for by law enforcement.
Jeremy Lowe, Patrick Frazee's attorney, says his client has been interviewed by law enforcement, voluntarily released his phone to be searched by investigators, and provided photographs along with cheek swabs for DNA. Police have said Frazee is cooperating.
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