Cecilia
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When I was a child, I thought I was an extraterrestrial, that I was a UFO. And I told my grandmother that. It was a really funny story.
What did she say when you said you were a UFO?
My brother told me that they found me in a railroad, right? One day we were like crossing a railroad and my brother told me, that's where we found you. And mom took you with us because you were naked on the railroad as a baby. And around the same time, I was kicked out of the bathroom in the girls' bathroom in school. And I'm from an area of Argentina where there's a lot of UFO activity in the 70s. So I put two and two together and I went to my grandma and I said, Grandma, I think I know what happened. I am an alien that I was left by mistake here. But I belong to a country, to a planet where all the girls have pee-pees like me. And my grandmother, being the great grandmother that she was, She says, that makes sense.
I'm pretty sure that's true. And we slept under, you know, outside in a huge patio with trees, fruit trees that she had. And we spent the night outside waiting for, you know, for my family from another planet to come and rescue me. And of course that didn't happen.
Cecilia Gentili was born in 1972 in a very small town in Argentina.
You know, I was always, you know, using the girls' bathroom. You know, I always had a tendency... Sometimes I didn't say that I was a girl, but I always said that I wasn't a boy. That was a constant for me. And around... In my teenage years, in adolescence, I started being attracted to other boys. And I thought like, well, I guess like being gay is the closest thing to what I feel. You know, at the time, it wasn't conversation about trans people, and it was not a conversation about being trans. It was not internet, you know. So I thought I was crazy for a long time, and When I went to the big city, you know, to go to college at age 17, I met the first trans person that I ever met in my life. And it was like this huge realization of like, you know, first of all, I'm not crazy.
Second of all, I may not be a UFO person, right? I may not be an extraterrestrial. And there is like, you know, it is people like me in the world, you know. So I just verbally... almost assault this woman because it was like, please, please, please help me, help me, help me. I need you, I need you. I'm like you, I need help. She was like, oh, calm down. And I, you know, she said, okay, you know, I help you. She said, I'm working right now. She was in the street. She said, I'm working right now. Go to the bar. And when I finish working, we'll meet and we talk more. And that's what I did. I waited all night in the bar. And then she told me, you know, yeah, you know, you can be trans. It's three things that you need to know.
You're going to be a whore. You're going to get high. And you're going to die young. Those are the three things that you need to know and be clear about before making the decision of transitioning.
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