The Bottom of the Cliff
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Who is Phoebe Judge and what is Criminal Plus?
Hi, it's Phoebe. I wanted to let you know that on Tuesday, April 8th, I'm hosting a trivia night on Zoom along with Lauren Spohr. Our whole team is putting together questions. And of course, there'll be prizes. If you'd like to be there, join Criminal+. You can learn more about it at thisiscriminal.com slash plus. Here's the show.
What was Operation Ranch Hand and its impact?
Between 1962 and 1971, the United States government sprayed more than 19 million gallons of herbicides in Vietnam. Parts of Cambodia and Laos were also sprayed. The military wanted to strip the leaves from trees, making it hard for the Viet Cong to hide from U.S. military airplanes, and to kill all the crops, eliminating sources of food. It was called Operation Ranch Hand, and its informal motto was, Only you can prevent a forest. The most common herbicide was Agent Orange, produced for the U.S. government by several companies, including the Monsanto Corporation and Dow Chemical. Agent Orange got its name because its barrels were marked with an orange line. And it makes people very sick. By some estimates, 400,000 Vietnamese people died from exposure. The Vietnamese Red Cross estimates that 3 million people were harmed, including hundreds of thousands of babies born with birth defects. In 1988, an Air Force researcher wrote a letter to Senator Tom Daschle, quote, We were aware of the potential for damage.
However, because the material was to be used on the enemy, none of us were overly concerned. We never considered a scenario in which our own personnel would become contaminated with the herbicide. But a lot of U.S. soldiers were exposed, an estimated 2.6 million. In 1991, Congress began to offer funding and treatment to American soldiers who served in Vietnam and had certain diseases. And they later introduced a special program to help children whose parents were deployed to Vietnam and whose exposure may have caused the child to be born with spina bifida, a condition where the backbone and spinal cord don't properly develop. Those children can get benefits through the Department of Veterans Affairs. One of them was Kelly Wriston.
Who is Kelly Wriston and what fraud occurred?
She was a VA beneficiary. She had spina bifida. She received in-home health care. Her home health care services were not skilled services. They were basic meeting needs of the beneficiary, such as helping her shower, brushing her hair, preparing meals for her, cleaning her home, things of that nature.
Tom Dominski first heard about Kelly Wriston in 2017. He's the resident agent in charge at the Department of Veterans Affairs, Office of Inspector General in Pittsburgh. He was brought in because something didn't seem right with the way the health care worker, Julie Wheeler, was billing the government.
How did Julie Wheeler commit fraud against the VA?
She was billing the VA for eight hours a day, seven days a week, which would be 56 hours of care per week.
Kelly Wriston and Julie Wheeler already knew each other.
It was actually her sister. So Julie Wheeler was claiming to VA that she provided home health care services for her sister. However, some witnesses claimed that maybe she was providing 10 to 15 hours of care per week. The beneficiary's husband acknowledged to us that through the course of a year approximately, he would estimate that Julie Wheeler only provided a total of eight hours of care over a year.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
Who is Phoebe Judge and what is Criminal Plus?
0:54–1:18
2
What was Operation Ranch Hand and its impact?
1:18–3:35
3
Who is Kelly Wriston and what fraud occurred?
3:35–4:20
4
How did Julie Wheeler commit fraud against the VA?
4:20–9:46
5
What led to the search at Grandview Overlook?
9:46–14:32
6
What was the outcome of the search for Julie Wheeler?
14:32–32:21