EP 206: Fire Doesn't Innovate. AI Does. Are You Ready?

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Fire hasn't changed since the dawn of humanity, but our cyber adversaries evolve every single day. What happens when organizations spend $10 on AI transformation for every $1 on cybersecurity? In this special ROCon 2025 keynote replay, Kip shares two stories that changed how he thinks about risk: a "perfect" employee who became an insider threat in four weeks, and a $12M deepfake that defeated every technical control on the dashboard. Your hosts are Kip Boyle, CISO with Cyber Risk Opportunities, and Jake Bernstein, Partner with K&L Gates. Get Kip's book, "Fire Doesn't Innovate" 2nd Edition -- https://a.co/d/0bYatohy

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