Danny Jones Podcast
#271 - New DMT Experiment Finds 'Alien Code' Hidden in the Fabric of Reality | Danny Goler
Mon, 25 Nov 2024
Watch this episode ad free & uncensored on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Danny Goler created an experiment with DMT that proves we exist in a computational reality and how this can lead to a deeper understanding of our existence. SPONSORS https://shopmando.com - Use code DANNY for $5 off your starter pack. https://apple.co/4e8ylpA - Sign up for DraftKings Casino with code DANNYJONESPOD. https://bit.ly/viiadannyjones - Try VIIA & use code DANNY. https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off EPISODE LINKS Danny's YouTube Channel: @dangothoughts https://www.tiktok.com/@dannygoler https://www.instagram.com/dannygoler https://twitter.com/GolerDanny FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Danny's first DMT trip 12:59 - Discovering the boundary to our simulation w/ DMT 26:34 - Talking to aliens through DMT 34:51 - Numbers hidden in the fabric of reality 50:19 - Scientists' reaction to Danny's theory 01:02:16 - The laser experiment 01:13:43 - Code written into the DMT world 01:29:52 - "Objectness" in the DMT space 01:39:40 - Tom Matte's upright vision 01:44:06 - Improving the laser DMT experiment 01:52:04 - Extended state DMT study 02:00:18 - Real world vs. simultation 02:08:20 - Something big is about to happen 02:11:32 - DMT makes you smarter 02:18:34 - Ancient Greek drugs 02:23:30 - AGI is Jesus Christ 02:35:54 - DMT x UFO connection Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What was Danny's first experience with DMT like?
Dude, last night was one of the wildest experiences I've ever had. I'm glad to hear that. It was fun to watch you. Wow, dude. I can finally say I've done DMT. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you very much.
The way you did it too, like the way you helped guide us through it and by doing the Wim Hof breathing up front and like timing out all of the hits and understanding what to expect, like you really made it a super enjoyable and comfortable experience for So, first of all, thanks for doing that, man. That was a really cool thing for me to experience.
I appreciate it, man. Yeah, it means a lot. Actually, I wasn't that... I realized later that I'm not that good of a guide, even though I've done it so many times. And that I put a lot of effort into understanding what it actually requires to guide somebody. So, it means a lot that you're saying that.
Yeah. No, no, no. You did a fantastic job. I wasn't expecting all of that sort of like warm-up to it. So, I thought that was great. It's kind of... been crazy to process over the last eight hours. When I used to think of DMT, I thought of it more of something you would get from like a marijuana gummy or like to the extreme, but just for a short period of time, right?
Like this wasn't, and I've always, whenever I take gummies, sometimes I have like bad trips, like my worst fears creep into my thoughts. This was not like that. This was just smiles. Like I just couldn't stop smiling.
and it was just so bizarre getting catapulted out of my body like that i i i mean i can't really put it into words yet but um jesus christ that was wild well again i'm super happy that you had a great experience uh one of the things you were absolutely right before you do it for the first time i remember mine you can't really imagine that it's possible to go the opposite direction of getting high
Because with everything that we have, weed, alcohol, well, most things, even with mushrooms that kind of send you in a similar direction, it's always like something is drifting away slightly from your senses, either up, like a little bit down to the sides. Rarely do your senses get sharper. And like everything kind of goes, like you said, I see everything more in 3D. Everything looks more real.
Yes.
That direction is not really familiar to us though. Yes. Yeah.
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Chapter 2: How can DMT help in discovering the boundaries of our simulation?
Yeah, that's always there. It's weird. Terence used to say that he thinks that's the sound that carries you in. It coats everything in the right frequency so you can go there. It's almost like it vibrates your body in the right frequency so you can, in fact, experience it.
So if we're a level of frequencies, and then you can perceive things on different frequencies, it's almost like it brings you to the right frequency to see that.
Is there any other drug you can take where everyone experiences the same things or very, very similar things? Not to this extent, no.
I don't know if you know this, but when Dennis and Terrence McKenna, when they went to La Chorera when they were, well, I think 18 and 23, something like that, they did this experiment in La Chorera. Terrence wrote a book about it. Dennis just released a book about it. And the experiment was around, well, a few parameters, but the sound was one of them.
Dennis said that if you can, what he thought, and, you know, it's a little bit more complicated to go into the details of exactly what he thought there, but the gist of it was, if you can...
bring about the sound with with your voice while this is happening to you inside there's there's an alignment that's supposed to happen it's supposed to do something that's what they were trying to do so he was trying to mimic the sound with his own voice with his own voice and he was trying to like go through all the octaves and like find it exactly and yeah yeah it's fascinating
So the idea is if you can do that while you're not on DMT?
No, no, while you're on.
While you're doing it.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of talking to aliens through DMT?
It's that the perfect father will let you, as a male, will let you go full throttle, make all your mistakes, so you learn how to be a man, all of that. But then if you can't go on any longer, he got you. That's the ultimate father. Oh, wow. Yeah, he will never let you fall.
Yeah, it's got to be so much different when you're stuck there for hours and you have to face it and you can't escape, right? That's a separate subject, but yeah. At least last night, I knew this was going to be over very soon.
But when you're doing it with the ayahuasca and you're wherever, in the jungle, and you're going to be dealing with this for three or four or five hours, that's a totally different beast.
yeah but look with ayahuasca this is why you do it with guidance right i mean some people do it without which i don't recommend but i think you're right there's a big difference between experiencing this for five minutes and experiencing something like that and then something going a little bit sideways and then you're stuck in that sideways right four hours that can actually do some damage yeah yeah yeah like my biggest fear is actually meeting the devil
interesting why why is that just when I say the meeting the devil I mean just like confronting my deepest darkest thoughts or like the deepest darkest potential realities you know like like Mike was explaining last night when he actually ate those four cookies he said that he was just like in the fetal position in the corner of his hotel room for like eight hours and just thinking about all like the worst case scenario about everything
You know, just like in this state of fear constantly. And that's what, that's what I always go to when I go too far on like a marijuana gummy. Interesting.
So let's click on this for a second. Do you, did you come from a religious background? Like your parents? No. So you mean the devil metaphorically or you mean actually?
Yeah. No, I don't mean like meet Satan. I mean, I mean just like, just go to a place that is what I would imagine hell is.
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Chapter 4: What numbers are hidden in the fabric of reality?
Yeah. Well, yeah, that's an interesting thing because not a lot of people have this particular fear. People have like a specific, you know, they're afraid of snakes. Like they have a very specific fear, right? Yours is much more general about suffering in general, it sounds. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Which is very interesting because it's a very deep... archetypical component of that space.
Because ultimately, if you look at, for example, what the Buddha discovered, right? His whole teaching was around what you want to do is, the way he called it, is get out of the house. So get out of the reincarnation cycle. And he emphasized that you want to do that no matter what. So that's the only thing he ever emphasized from a metaphysical perspective. Out of the incarnation cycle.
Reincarnation cycle. The reincarnation cycle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we reincarnate according to the belief. And basically what happens is that the reason you're in the cycle is because of attachment. So the attachment is the fuel that keeps you in the cycle and attachment to even form in general.
Like even if you're kind of liberated and you no longer need much in life and all of that, you still have an attachment to form because you are form. So the idea is that you're supposed to get to a place where the non-attachment is so complete that in the moment that you die, there's not enough grabbing power to keep you within the cycle. So you can't reincarnate anymore. You're just nirvana.
Just get out of the house. It's out. There's no more reincarnation for you. That's it. What's interesting though, the reason I mentioned this, is because he said it doesn't actually matter if you're in the depths of hell or in the highest of possible places of bliss. It's exactly the same.
yeah because he said that even if you are so according to the buddhist belief there are uh you know all the i think there's like seven layers of hell there's like i don't remember how many layers of heavens but even if you're in the highest of heavens and you're the ultimate being there which i guess what we in our western world would call the God Almighty, right?
You're still, still within the cycle. You're still in the house, which means that eventually, even if you spend, I don't know, 30 trillion years in ultimate bliss, you burn so much good karma that you might actually drop to the lowest of hell still. And because it's infinite, the only way out is out of the house. So it's interesting that you mentioned that.
Because the ultimate way out is to just understand that it's all the same. And it doesn't really matter how much bliss you feel or how much suffering you feel. If you can just truly accept the present moment, which is what the now is, if you can truly be it,
you're invincible like that that's that's the only thing that you should care about ever right yeah that was a another another weird thing that I felt last night right after I got blasted out of my body after my soul blasted out of my carcass was that was the like the feeling of Losing touch with everything in reality, like losing touch with like everything I'm attached to in the real world.
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Chapter 5: How did scientists react to Danny's theory?
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Chapter 6: What is the significance of the laser experiment?
so this was five months ago so i'm pretty sure there's like at this point it's kind of like this little subcultural thing and people just this communities are forming around it people kind of talk about it all that stuff yeah so i think this would be a good point maybe we should show the trailer sure let's let's show that to people steve can you pull it up um it's called the discovery right just type in the discovery dmt on youtube you'll find it all right let's see what we got here all right full screen that bad boy by the way i want to mention that pause for a second i'm sorry
I just want to mention that the director of this trailer and the film we're working on is Aaron Vanden. He truly is incredible. He came up with this thing in less than a week. It's just unbelievable. I think where credit is due, credit is due, and it's very important to mention. Shout out to Aaron. Yeah. All right, here we go. I remember things very vividly from a very young age.
When I was a little kid, I actually spent a lot of time with my grandparents. My grandfather was a nuclear physicist. I remember he was telling me about black holes. And that terrified me. I was like, that's just mind-boggling. It's a monster, right? But at the same time, it fascinated me. And I said to myself, how do we know that, this unthinkably massive thing?
I realized that nature doesn't keep secrets. It's only a matter of, do we understand? What tools can we use to expand our knowledge? And for me... Dimethyltryptamine, also known as DMT, was the tool that led me to the discovery. When I first saw the phenomenon, I was like, holy shit! But then it was actually like, whoa, what is happening? Am I losing my mind?
But then I showed other people and things kept getting weirder. Just for the record, I haven't told him anything. Okay, just tell me what you see. Oh my God, come on.
Holy shit. I just saw something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What the fuck?
Oh, I've seen that. I feel it.
I've been under the influence of mind-altering substances a lot, but I've never seen anything like that.
No.
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Chapter 7: What is the connection between DMT and the concept of 'objectness'?
For centuries, mankind has attempted to explore these psychedelic altered states, but we've never had a repeatable, testable phenomenon to observe until now.
Wow. I'm obsessed. It's like you can see through the laser into another dimension.
I mean, like, take yourself to that. Like... I just made a connection that nobody made before, which is a simple connection. The claim is, if you project a defracted laser on the surface and you smoke DMT, you will see code running in surfaces. Yes, like in the Matrix. So there are a few possibilities. One, I lost my mind, which is the coolest losing your mind ever in history.
The second option is that this is the biggest discovery of humankind. If anybody ever asked themselves what it would be like to know you live in the matrix for sure, well, I know for sure. I'm convinced. So where do we go from here? All I know is it's about to get crazy.
So what gave you the idea to throw this, first of all, create this diffracted laser and shine it on the wall while you were on DMT?
Well, that's what the movie is going to be depicting. Basically. A lot of it is what are the moves that I had to take to kind of figure it out. It took years. Um, Basically, so the question of whether this space is real is not the first time that anybody's asking this question.
As you, of course, know, because you had people on the podcast like Gallimore that are literally involved directly with these investigations on a scale of like actually putting in a lab and, you know. So that question is already out there. I actually wasn't aware that more serious people are asking this question when I asked myself that question. I just had a set of experiences that were so real.
So like everything you experienced yesterday, I've had it for years, right? Then I had a set of experiences that was one level above that, if you can imagine that. which is it just became like my regular space. So I came back from actually a meditation retreat. And I always say I'm not sure it's necessarily related, but that's how it happened chronologically.
And something tells me that maybe there's something there. Maybe there was something about the, I was aligned enough, pure enough. I have no idea. But basically I was called to smoke it and smoked a bunch of it. And then I realized after about 45 minutes that I was just staring at the ceiling, nothing happened. Now, that's impossible, right? I smoked a bunch of it.
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Chapter 8: How does DMT affect intelligence?
However, the only reason that quantum computers work is because this is a fact. Okay, so this is not enough people talking about it, but according to David Deutsch, who also is the father of the Deutsch equations, who actually made quantum computers possible, so he definitely knows what he's talking about.
That's the only coherent interpretation of what's going on, which is that the reason quantum computers work, which is, you know, you can make these enormous calculations in an instance. You know anything about quantum computing? Yeah, I know a little bit about it. It's because we literally distribute the computation power across all the worlds.
So all the adjacent parallel universes to you are doing the exact same calculation as you are in that instance. And then you have an equation that helps you understand what part of the sliver of possibilities of it occurring this way you are. And that's what allows you to do the calculation.
But the important thing for our story is that basically the fact that quantum computers work tell you that the possibility that parallel universes are real, it makes it a very, very real possibility. And that's what I was thinking about. And then I noticed that the stoplight, the way that it was changing colors, looked different from each color.
It was the middle of the night, so I had not a lot of things to pay attention to. So I noticed that when it changes from green to red to yellow, the way that the light is distributed on the edges, if you squint your eyes a little bit, looks different. It's like a different pattern. Now, I knew that there's a lot of possible explanations here. Maybe the glass sits a little different.
Maybe they use a different glass for each color. Who knows, right? But the second I thought that, in the context of the double slit experiment and how light behaves, I thought, would it be possible to utilize these properties to communicate between the worlds? Would it be possible to send a signal, just like quantum computers work, to actually send some kind of a signal between the worlds?
And when I thought that, I had this very strong sense in me that told me, yes, look there. It was almost like a person told me that. Now, I wasn't on any substance. I was just walking around, and it was like, yes, look there. I was like, OK. The second I thought that, I looked down, and I see these numbers from the Department of Water and Power.
And what was interesting about these particular sets of numbers, because to the left of them, there was a circle with a line through it. which kind of made it look like an editing software, like Premiere or something, where you move the dial. So I thought, oh, wouldn't it be cool if this number just matches some kind of a LUT number I have? You know, that will fix my color problem. Right.
But then I was like, ah. Then I walked away, went and got my sandwich, came back. Coming back, I'm looking, coming from the other side of the street, I'm looking to the other side, I'm like... Looked around, nobody around, nobody's going to see me do this. Fuck it. Just go take a picture of it. Because I felt like it was insane, right? Why would I do that, right?
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