Danny Jones Podcast
#293 - Leaked NASA Footage Confirms Spooky Details of Apollo 11 Moon Landing | Bart Sibrel
Mon, 31 Mar 2025
Watch every episode ad-free & uncensored on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Bart Sibrel is a filmmaker & investigative journalist who directed the films "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" and "Astronauts Gone Wild," and author of the book "Moon Man: The True Story of a Filmmaker on the CIA Hit List." SPONSORS https://nordvpn.com/dannyjones - Try it risk free now with a 30-day money back guarantee. https://www.bruntworkwear.com/danny - Get 10% off BRUNT with code DANNY. http://morning.ver.so/danny - Use code DANNY for 15% off your first order. https://www.magicmind.com/dannygm - Use code DANNY40 for 40% off your order. https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off. EPISODE LINKS https://sibrel.com FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Wernher von Braun's warning about the moon 07:27 - How CIA maintains control of Americans 12:21 - Why questioning the moon landing is offensive 22:36 - Classified moon landing footage 38:53 - Strange Apollo 10 footage 47:06 - Photos of astronauts on the moon 01:02:38 - Eyewitness confessions 01:14:37 - The Van Allen radiation belt 01:24:02 - Elon Musk on going to the moon 01:32:53 - Assaulted by astronauts 01:39:36 - NASA scientist who funded Sibrel's film 01:45:56 - The Apollo 1 fire 01:54:33 - Extreme temperatures on the moon 02:01:51 - Neil Armstrong's cryptic message 02:10:29 - Moon landing press conference 02:29:13 - Stanley Kubrick 02:34:39 - Bart Sibrel debate 02:39:00 - Google AI moon landing analysis 02:48:52 - Would disclosure destroy America? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What warning did Wernher von Braun give about the moon?
Mr. Bart Cybrell, it's an honor to have you in here, man. I'm glad we can make this happen. Sure, no problem. Over the last two days, I've been reading your book and watching your documentaries and really diving deep into your background and your whole history of the moon landing.
I was talking to you the other day on the phone and I was telling you like, I don't really, I'm not up to speed on all of the little nuances and like all of the actual evidence that you've gone through for your, you know, for your idea or for your conclusion that the moon landing was a fraud.
And then I watched astronauts gone wild, which by the way is the best title to a documentary ever created in human history for people who, that may have not read your books or seen podcasts with you. Can you walk us through how this whole journey started for you?
Yeah, I grew up as the biggest fan of the moon missions, kind of the biggest fan boy, because my father was in the Air Force. I grew up around Air Force bases, aerospace. And even though I was asleep in bed at the time, I was about four years old,
The next couple of weeks, my father being a high-ranking officer in the Air Force, got a VIP package of the prints from Apollo 11, alleged first trip to the moon. He gave them to me, and they were like my most cherished possession of all time. And we moved about every couple of years, and wherever we moved to, they were a prominent place, like a shrine, in every bedroom.
So from about the age of four to 14, if I only saw them once a day, that's about 3,650 times I saw these pictures that allegedly say they're on the moon. So when I'm 14 years old, I saw a television program of one of the first guests on Oprah Winfrey. His name was William Kaysing. He had the second highest security clearance to Von Braun during the Apollo program.
He was an English major, and he would edit the grammar of Von Braun, whose native language was German, and he would edit the grammar of the generals at the Pentagon who graduated at West Point, but not in English, more in military tactics.
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Chapter 2: How does the CIA control public perception?
And he confessed he saw a memo from von Braun to the Pentagon warning them that the odds of going to the moon on the very first attempt with 1960s technology was only a 1 in 10,000 chance. So there was a 99.999% chance they would kill the crew on live TV if they tried. So what do you do in poker when you have crap and you want to win? You bluff. And he said that's what they did.
So I'm an open-minded 14-year-old, and that's what it takes to see the truth. It says in an ancient text that pride blinds us from seeing the truth. And pride is simply the unwillingness to be wrong. And humility is the willingness to be wrong. And being wrong is great because I'm not walking around in error.
and i'm learning something new so i went back to those pictures with new eyes it was like eyes wide shut you know the most famous picture of aldrin with his arm bent the suit has wrinkles all in it it's supposed to be pressurized how many wrinkles are in a balloon so the truth is hidden in plain sight my eyes were wide shut and then i noticed that the soil in the original print it was kind of a caramel brown the background's a grayish blue they since color corrected that
so that the foreground is grayish blue also. So I could see what appeared to be the end of real soil and then horizontally left to right the beginning of a slightly more out of focus fake backdrop. In fact, the smartest AI in the world. Just a year ago, Google's neural network, not available to the public, analyzed the pictures.
It said the unmanned probes of the lunar surface from China are real, and every single Apollo picture is fake, a fake backdrop. It can analyze the pixels. It's never been wrong. That just came out. News stories or news agencies are suppressing that truth. I saw it as a 14-year-old, so that kind of planted the seed in my mind. Hmm. I wonder, did they fake the moon landing or not?
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Chapter 3: Why is questioning the moon landing controversial?
Fast forward another 10 years, at age 24, I'd become a filmmaker, and a filmmaker's job is to make fake scenes look real. So I could tell you not only were the pictures taken with electrical light with 100% certainty, I could tell you what kind of light, because I had them in my production closet. Mm-hmm.
And then as serendipity would have it, I was editing one day for the man who had produced the program I saw 10 years earlier as a 14-year-old. And I'm like, who was that guy in your program who said we didn't go to the moon? I'd like to talk to him. He puts me in touch with them. And being a filmmaker, Bill Kaysing suggested I produce a documentary about the moon landings being fraudulent.
I paid myself a salary for six months, did nothing but research. And we can look at these pictures later, but the shadows are inconsistent. The behavior, like you said, of the astronauts is off sync. The Soviets were more advanced. The administrator of NASA resigned before the first mission. All of these things seemed odd to me.
And so originally, Danny, I turned down the project for fear that if they fake the moon landing and I start overturning these rocks – It could be dangerous. So I actually turned it down. It wasn't until I read the Bible about five times from cover to cover. Still wasn't a Christian, but, you know, I'm trying to look for, you know, ultimate truth. Do things make themselves or is there a God?
You know, evolution says a lower form of life made a higher form of life. So how could something without a brain make a brain? Kind of the opposite of the truth there. And then a judgment to come seems kind of logical. And then if you really think about it, evil and good, that is going on. That battle is going on. And evil or good starts with lies. The evil people lie.
And then mankind's greatest accomplishment lies. is putting a man on the moon. And so it had this spiritual smell. There's something important about this. So five years later, I changed my mind. I realized if they faked the moon landing, and I assure you with 100% certainty they did, just go to sabrell.com, S as in Sam, I B as in boy, R-E-L. You can see all of this for free on the homepage.
the faking of the moon landing is so much more profound than if they'd actually gone. I mean, either they went and came back with 1960s technology, even though they can't do it today, or the most powerful nation on earth falsified mankind's greatest accomplishment and murdered their own citizens to cover it up. If that's true, and it is, that's so much more profound than if they'd actually gone.
I changed my mind. I said, This is important. If the truth doesn't come out, mankind in our country will die.
The thing that really opened the door to this idea for me was that the idea of the moon landing being a hoax was born during the time of the highest distrust of the US government. In 1963, the president was assassinated. In 1974, the first U.S. president resigned. In 1975, the CIA admitted to doing mind control experiments on unwitting humans. And in April, Saigon fell and we lost the Vietnam War.
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Chapter 4: What classified footage exists from the moon landing?
All you're really doing is, It's propaganda to push the view of America forward in the public narrative, right?
Yeah, Nixon said at the time the biggest threat to the United States of America was not China, was not Russia. It was the American people protesting the federal government over the Vietnam War. And your insight, Danny, is hitting the nail on the head. According to Robert Kennedy Jr., he has more access to the JFK files than Oliver Stone does.
It's his researched opinion with 100% certainty that the CIA killed the president of the United States because he was going to reform the agency and they didn't want that. Well, there's a lot of reasons they killed JFK, right? Yeah, a bunch. A ton. But the point is, according to the people who know more information than we do, the CIA killed their own president.
And then Robert McNamara said the public was against the Vietnam War. They were protesting it, right? He said, we need something like Pearl Harbor. Because prior to Pearl Harbor, 90% of Americans were against entering World War II. A day later, 90% were for it to get even.
he said before he died the whole reason the war was started the gulf of tonkin attack it never happened congress passed a law based on a cia fabrication so if they're willing to kill their own president willing to kill 58 220 of their own soldiers without cause i don't think they're going to have a problem faking a video image right the difference is Whoever killed JFK, it's still a tragedy.
Whoever did the Gulf of Tonkin, it's a tragedy. This is a positive lie. And I come along wanting to take away that sweet candy, and people who say they're anti-corruption are defending it. You have Bill Maher on one end of the liberal spectrum and – Glenn Beck on The Conservative saying how great it is that Americans were first on the moon.
I know America has gotten bad, but at least we were first on the moon. See, they don't realize how bad it has gotten. They did fake the moon landing. There were no independent news coverage, no independent eyewitnesses. And Eugene Krantz, who I spoke to personally, flight director, said even someone in the command center,
can tell no difference whatsoever between a simulated flight and a quote real flight. So this idea that hundreds of thousands of people were involved must make it real. The exact opposite is true. Only eight people knew that they were making the atomic bomb when it involved 129,500 people.
You see, that's like saying what a bank teller knows and what the CEO of the bank knows about corruption are completely different. So if someone in the command center can't tell the difference between a simulation and a real flight, how could we as a four-year-old watching it in our living room or watching it years later? I'm going to have one of those two. Magic mind, baby, here. Magic mind.
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Chapter 5: What are the details of the Apollo 10 footage?
It improves your memory, your recall. It's got lion's mane, all the good brain stuff, mind sharpener, and energy. Cheers. All right. One of the things that's funny about the moon landing conspiracy is... You could question 9-11. You can question JFK's assassination. You can question all these other things. But if you question the moon landing, you're a fool. Why is that?
Well, it's offending people. It's like the people who made cartoons about a certain religious icon. They're offended. There's a famous quote, my book, Moon Man, which is audio that I read myself, Kindle or print. There you go. Moonman, folks. It's at Sabrell.com.
It's the behind-the-scenes account of making my movie, which was financed by someone who builds rockets for NASA who knows that it's fake. You see, I'm offending people's God. That's why they're so offended. There's a quote, each chapter ends with a quote.
One says, "...the likelihood of one individual being right increases in direct proportion to the intensity to which others are trying to prove him wrong. If they really went to the moon..." than anyone who says otherwise is an idiot, then why are there thousands of YouTube videos to reassure people that the so obvious moon landings are real?
If I went around saying Mickey Mouse was the first president, do you think there'd be a thousand videos to reassure people that it was George Washington? Shakespeare said, thou does protects too much. The reason why they have to prop it up is because it's made of straw. You can prove that the moon landings are fake with the logic, not having to look at any video clip or any picture.
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Chapter 6: What contradictions exist in astronaut photography?
Today, with five decades better rockets and computers, the farthest that NASA can send an astronaut into space is only one thousandth the distance to the moon. Wow.
So what they're really claiming, Danny, is that back in 1969, when all of NASA's computers combined had one millionth the computing power of a cell phone, they sent astronauts ahead of schedule on the first attempt 1,000 times farther than they can do today with 50 years better technology. So what they're actually saying is for the first time in the history of the world,
Technology was greater in the past than in the future, which is impossible, which means they faked it. It's amazing. The truth is right there. And people have made a god out of this, and they refuse to see the truth.
Have you read Annie Jacobson's book, Area 51? No. She talks about you and Bill Kaysing, and I think it's the last chapter. And what she's talking – there's a whole section about the moon landing, and what she was claiming was that there was Soviet –
disinformation groups that were betting themselves in the u.s and that bill i i might be i don't remember if she said bill exactly but there were some people that were heading up some moon landing hoax groups and that they were um essentially soviet spies trying to sow distrust in this narrative in the u.s are you familiar with any of this these ideas or these claims
Yeah, basically that book says the moon landings are real, which is another reason maybe not to trust everything that's in that book. The fact is you can go to the homepage of Sobrell.com and the film that you saw, A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon. We have classified footage. We can show a clip of it.
It's one of the first clips I have here of them faking being halfway to the moon right in front of your eyes from Earth orbit using a one-foot model of the Earth with a third track of audio of the CIA. Telling them to fake a four-second radio delay.
I want to go through all this stuff. We're going to. But first, what do you know about or have you talked to any people in Russia or former Soviet Union about this? Whether it be intelligence people, rocket scientists, anybody like that. Have you talked to anyone?
Yes, I have. So the two reasons that people use over and over again the moon missions must be real is you can't keep a secret from hundreds of thousands of people. The fact is you can that the atomic bomb involved 129,000 and only eight people knew what they were doing. The guy in the command center can't tell the difference between a real flight and a fake flight.
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Chapter 7: What do eyewitness confessions reveal?
And then the narrator says, see, the Russians think we went to the moon, but they failed to mention just six weeks earlier, the former director of the Russian space agency saying the moon missions are fake. You see, the Russians are blackmailing us. The Chinese are blackmailing us. Another good reason for the truth to come out.
They can tell the truth about MLK, RFK, JFK, but if they don't tell the truth about the moon landing fraud, the evil people are still in power and the evil people have won. And what they don't realize, these people allegedly in the government who want the truth to come out about various things, the strongest tool...
To bring down the corruption in the federal government is to show the public that they were duped and made suckers out of the moon landing fraud six times. That would unite Republicans and Democrats against corruption. Don't be afraid of the truth because if they don't announce that truth, they are complicit with it. The evil people have won.
We have institutionalized a lie to elementary school children and college students. They did fake the moon landing. You can't have a thousand times greater space traveling technology in 1969 than today. It's that simple.
So you think Russia and China are blackmailing NASA?
Well, or the federal government, really. Or the federal government. Yeah, really the federal government.
So even if Russia or China came out and said, hey, they faked the moon landing, who would believe them anyways?
Well, it depends on what proof they have, because the Chinese probably have landers at the sites up close and can show that the coordinates, there's nothing there. Or if at the most, they landed a probe there later to mimic the landing of the Apollo spacecraft. Have you ever heard of a dude named Hal Pauvenmeier?
Damn it.
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Chapter 8: How do radiation belts affect moon missions?
I gave him the benefit of the doubt for as long as possible until I found this footage. This footage, which we're about to see, two NBC news directors agreed it proves with 100% certainty that they never left Earth orbit and therefore never went to the moon. They were going to broadcast it nationwide. They flew me to New York, put me up in the Waldorf Astoria.
paid me thousands of dollars for the exclusive license. They got a threatening phone call from the federal government saying, don't broadcast it or we'll pull your plug on NBC. That's what we're about to see. There's a third track of audio of the CIA prompting the astronauts not to speak until four seconds go by to fake a radio delay.
You'll see they're using a one-foot model of the Earth to pretend to be halfway to the moon. It's dated two days into the flight.
and just go ahead and hit play for eight minutes and my narration on the table will prove it beyond any doubt this is what convinced me the most i remember when i found this tape it was june 30th 1999 a wednesday i believe and i just quietly wept i'm like oh my gosh they really did fake the moon landing how sad is that and if the person who was the biggest fan
can change their mind and reluctantly admit, yes, sadly, they did fake it, then I'm sorry. This is the proof that was proven in a court of law. Two NBC news directors agreed. It proves they didn't go to the moon. Even my critics agree. What we're about to see is the crew of Apollo 11 faking being halfway to the moon. And what a surprise, 55 years later, they still can't leave Earth's orbit.
That's why there's mannequins orbiting the moon. Go ahead and hit play. So my critics say, hey, you know, this film that I'm about to show you is widely available. It's not. It never appeared anywhere until my film came out. And what you'll hear is a third track of audio of the CIA. prompting the astronauts not to speak until four seconds have gone by.
Now, what this footage is, and I have an unedited reel of like an hour to an hour and a half of virtually the same shot over and over again, they're claiming that this is a little blue earth
you know halfway to the moon looking back when in fact this is a circular window of the spacecraft outside of which is the earth and low earth orbit now originally i said it's kind of part of the earth out the window which it does look like but another cinematographer pointed out is what they did is they took a transparent photograph like a slide or an x-ray that was color they put it over the circular window so it's a circular window and of course the circular earth
and they've backlit it with Earthshine. Now this is still the window. You can see the little two to three inch indentation here like on a ship because it's a pressurized bulletproof window, I presume. And first of all, if they're halfway to the moon, there would be a radio delay. So it would take two seconds for the radio signal to go out, two seconds for them to come back.
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