Danny Jones Podcast
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25 May 2026
Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Dude, it's been like three years since you've been here. We were just talking off camera. Time flies. It's crazy. A little bit over three years, man. Time really does fly. You have a whole family since the last time I've seen you. I know. Well, I've at least had two more kids since you were here last. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's crazy, dude.
And the last time you were here, we discussed, you had come across an insane story regarding the war in the Ukraine. the Ukraine-Russia war, how you had a bunch of sources that were telling you that CIA was working with another intelligence agency inside of Russia to do sabotage operations in Russia.
And you were, I've talked about this so many times on this podcast from the last three years, it's insane, how you were like working with a huge publication for months on releasing this. And then right up to the day, got to the day where you guys were going to launch the whole story on their platform.
And then you had to have a call with the deputy director of the CIA and they had an offer record agreement and you couldn't publish it.
um insane well well that decision was made without me i mean ironically they they waited until the moment i was unavailable to have that conversation and then by the time i got back and got back online like oh yeah and i mean this is a little bit of like insider baseball but like maybe some people would be interested um and i i think your audience too you know there's a belief that the cia controls the media right for instance
It's not that. That's not how it works. But there is a relationship between the media and large governmental bureaucracies like the CIA. I'm not trying to split hairs here, but I'll tell you how it works. You have newspaper reporters who have to report news. They need to get their stories. And what they do is they have relationships.
Usually it is with a deputy director or a deputy commander, if it's a military command. And they will speak on background, give maybe an off-the-record quote. And what happens is that these journalists can over time, in some instances, become captured by their sources. That they do not want the government to turn that spigot off, that spigot of information, because that's their career.
And look, I mean, again, not to be too cynical, but Some of these editors at big news publications they have mortgages to pay they have kids to put through a college They're not gonna like go out on a limb and risk their career for some some national security story. Well, right You know, so there's this um this sort of influence that exists that
Yeah, I mean, I think it's super bad and I don't think it's conducive towards transparency. No, and it certainly is convenient to the people that work for the big government agencies, right? It's convenient for power, right? It's convenient for them. They have an unlimited amount of money and the people that are doing this reporting that are relying on them, you know, they need that money.
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Chapter 2: What happened with the CIA and the media?
It's getting harder to filter the wheat from the chaff, right? And to get cut through the noise to what's real, to what's not real, to what's just, you know, lazy journalism. I still think that's better than having two or three big TV networks who are just getting piped their information straight from the CIA, right?
We have to become, as citizens and consumers of the news, we have to become better at filtering out the bullshit. Yeah, no. Which is tough. That's absolutely true. Yeah, media literacy matters. Yeah. And you're right, though, it is tough. It's tough for you and I. It's tough for, you know, I mean, it's tough for me at times.
So you can imagine somebody who's not in journalism and doesn't really follow national defense, how difficult it is to piece these things together, like what sources are viable, which ones aren't. And right now, as you point out, we have a very libertarian model towards how journalism works. Almost anyone can jump in and participate and compete on the free market.
And there's good aspects and bad aspects of it. I mean, it is conducive to stories getting out there that would not be published in a major publication normally. So there's that. But yeah, the flip side is just, there's so much information out there. Where do you begin? Right, exactly. So what have you been working on?
I mean, there's no shortage of shit going on out there in the world right now, right? Dude. It's like, it's so hard. It's like every three hours, there's a crazy news story that's coming out, whether it be in regards to the Iran war or these Epstein files or fucking aliens or hantavirus, you name it. I mean, and our government is even like the purveyor of like UFO leaks now. Oh my God, dude.
It reminds me of when the first Epstein file thing came out where they came, the influencers came out with the binders that said Epstein files.
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Chapter 3: How does Havana Syndrome affect individuals?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we've still only seen like 50% of them, right? Oh, the Epstein files? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. If that. Yeah. Fully redacted, not protecting the victims, only protecting the billionaire PDF files. Yeah. When that stuff came out, like, oh, I'll get back to the topic. But I mean, when the Epstein stuff came out, what we have seen, it was like worse than I thought it would be.
Oh, way worse. Yeah. Like I thought, yeah, I mean, we know he was involved in sex trafficking and he's a really bad guy. I suspected that there were going to be some Israeli intelligence stuff around him. Yeah. But all the stuff that like came out about him and the Russians, it's like, whoa, dude, what was going on here? And I can only imagine what's in those unreleased files.
What was the part about him and the Russians again?
was making like trips to russia even after the ukraine war began he was making these like trips to russia he's trying to meet with vlad he was trying to meet with putin right yeah yeah and he was going over there and i don't even want to know what he was doing over there i mean i think we all know what he was doing but yeah um you can imagine if the russians had stuff on him yeah and uh who i mean god only knows this whole thing is like well i mean his his uh
not really his father-in-law, but Ghislaine Maxwell's dad was like a famous triple spy, right? Robert Maxwell. Yeah, Robert Maxwell. Yeah. Worked for the KGB, MI6, and the Mossad. allegedly was whacked by a Mossad fucking SEAL team or something. I mean, I believe the story is he like drowned off the back. That's the story. Yeah. I don't know.
But he was threatening to like expose all their shit right before that. I don't know. I don't know any details about it, but there's a book out there called Gideon Spies. Oh yeah. I read many years ago that has like a whole chapter I think about him. Yeah. I've heard that was a really good book. I have friends who've read that. It was interesting. Yeah. Yeah, the Epstein stuff's insane.
The most insane part about the government dropping those Epstein files on us and the alien... Well, fuck the alien files. That's all distraction. All that shit was already public. Is that, like, they do it and they give us no context or analysis or anything. It's like, they drop it on us and... It's like, okay, what's the FBI's conclusion on this? Right.
You know, like what is like, where's your report? No, we're just going to give you all this crazy, insane shit about a ball and human sacrifice and trafficking people across borders and people being murdered and eating like code words for human flesh and stuff like this. But no, no analysis from the FBI here. This is just do with it what you will.
And going back to what you said about the average person trying to piecemeal like what is accurate information, what is true. The average person has to go through 3.5 million pages of Epstein files. It's only 2% of the total related data. That's so wild, man. Zoom out a little bit.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of Cuba's intelligence capabilities?
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there's so much or I'm sorry, there's so little of that type of reporting on the intelligence community and the special operations community. It really takes a long time to write that kind of stuff. There's really only a half dozen of us in the country. I'm sorry if that sounds a little pretentious, but there aren't many of us that really work in this field.
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Use the QR code on screen to lock it in now. When it comes to... like your job as a journalist and working on these stories, how many people, when it comes to sources, how many sources do you rely on in or out of the government, military or CIA, what have you? I mean, it's a combination of people who are still inside the system and people who are not. Got it.
And I'm sure the people that are not still have connections inside, right? Yes. I mean, they're all, you know, if you're using them as a source, it's because they have some sort of connection, you know, personal or by affiliation or whatever the case may be.
Each of these stories we work on has sort of a different origin story, the way that I come to sources and the reason why I start working on a story. They're all a little different. The one we did about Havana syndrome, for instance. Incredible. It was like a movie. It's crazy, isn't it? It's a wild story. And Sean and I worked for probably the better part of a year or more than a year on that.
And I got introduced to the former CIA officer who is known by many as Patient Zero, the first guy that was struck by Havana syndrome in Cuba in 2016. And I went and visited him and his family. who they live in a very remote place. That's all I'll say about that. I went out and spent like a day and a half with them. And I wanted to see if there was more reporting that can be done on this topic.
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Chapter 5: What are the differences between military and CIA operatives?
And they're not like, they're not like sly, like multiple languages, that kind of kind of. so yeah that the you know average special ops guy has a a pretty uh strong physique right a kind of body type that stands out you know full sleeve tattoos we we like to work out our mustache i have i have tattoos i'm not talking smack i get it um but uh a spy a successful spy
probably looks like an insurance claim salesman. Like a guy that's fat, balding, just unassuming person. But there's other things too. I mean, there's military culture, the way soldiers speak, even the way you stand. I mean, your posture is something to give you away.
When you live in this military culture, it just becomes harder and harder for you to blend in in your own culture, much less someone else's. And as I was saying earlier, I mean, it's also a difficult lifestyle when your entire life has been, you know, working with a platoon of Rangers or a platoon of SEALs or a Delta Force team or whatever the case is.
and then go into this sort of like very lonely sort of existence. And I was, you know, even when I came in and I started first researching the story, I was a little critical, I think, of the stories of Knox who get in trouble with booze and women. It's like, come on, man, where's your self-discipline here? There's a lot, this is kind of important stuff, right?
Chapter 6: How does military culture impact operatives' ability to blend in?
But when you start to understand the way, the lifestyle these guys have, I think it becomes very natural that they're looking for some sort of human connection because they're not getting it anywhere else. Because they're starved of it, right? Right. And then, yeah, booze and women, it leads to operations getting compromised. And there's one story in there I talk about.
Chapter 7: What are the implications of the military draft discussion?
a Connex container with like $3 million worth of clandestine communications equipment that we put in a country in Africa. And the knock that was running the logistics company got drunk and revealed a bit more than he should have to a woman. And as far as I know, and the people I know know, that Connex container is still sitting in a Connex yard in Africa somewhere. They just like abandoned it.
Oh my God.
Chapter 8: What insights are shared about the American Dream and societal expectations?
That's crazy, dude. Jesus Christ. Well, I mean, that's like the whole thing. I mean, that's the story. That's the Havana syndrome story is like the main thing about this. The biggest problem is the human intelligence part of it because we're the most vulnerable.
We're the most vulnerable to being... Not just because we're these biological entities that can be injured in multiple ways, but we have like these human desires and instincts and things like this and vulnerabilities to where... it's not optimal, right? It's better to use satellites and drones and fucking dolphins. Yeah, I mean, you're right.
As Americans, I think we're much more comfortable with that, right? Like laser-guided precision munitions, laser beams, high-tech death rays. We love all that shit. But I mean, it's really important to invest in the human being because the human being is the weapon, right? All this other stuff, they're just tools.
And I think sometimes we overlook that and we don't want to put the hard work into investing in the human. Well, how do you find humans – it doesn't seem like we're built like Chechnyans, right? Like America is going the way of like, we're built for TikTok, as Tim Dillon would probably say. And like, how do you find Billy Waz in this day and age?
You know, like, how do you find guys like that who they, this is what they yearn for. They yearn to go over there and be the surprise kill vanish guys, you know? I think
those people are still there I think there are a lot of young American men that grow up wanting to do that mm-hmm really yeah yeah I think so even with the way how the the lies of the Iraq war and the Afghanistan war like how that's all come out and like these guys like I mean I've had a lot of guys in here who have
you know, ended up going over there and they came back here and like fucking regretted it. Like not just because of all the, not just because of, you know, all of the hypervigilance and the PTSD and stuff that's involved with that and the depression, but like compiling onto that is like, oh wow, this was all sold on a lie or whatever. And like, it was, It was Vietnam basically all over again.
I feel the same way in a lot of regards. We should learn from history. We see this stuff happening over and over again. We should maybe be more skeptical about this war in Iran right now because our government keeps lying to us. I don't think there's many people who do believe in this war in Iran. But, I mean, the military doesn't seem like it's having huge issues with recruitment right now.
They're having some, as I recall. Well, you see they're talking about the draft now. Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's a possibility. That's like you were saying about the TikTok generation stuff. You install the draft and shit gets very real very fast for a lot of people. including wealthy people and people who are politically connected.
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