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The junior engineer used to be the safe first hire. Cloë Stanbridge says AI just made that job disappear, and that's only the start of what's rewriting tech hiring right now.In this episode of Building Tech Teams, James MacDonald sits down with Cloë Stanbridge, Talent Lead at Airtree, one of Australia's most active venture capital firms. Cloë spends her days helping early-stage founders make their first engineering hires and helping later-stage companies scale their teams, work she's done from both sides, having previously led talent through a hypergrowth stretch at SafetyCulture and embedded inside scaling companies at The Lab17. They get into what actually makes a founder an "outlier" worth backing, why some founders eventually have to admit they've become the bottleneck in their own company, why the traditional junior engineer role is disappearing, and how Airtree's new Frontiers program is drawing hundreds of applications from engineers ready to go out on their own.It's a hiring-trenches conversation full of specific, hard-won detail: the real numbers behind scaling a team from 60 to 350 people, why some recruiters place better talent because they simply know the team better, the AI tools on both sides of the hiring desk, and the line that sums up what's actually scarce in tech right now: everyone can build, not everyone can sell.Chapters0:00 Cold open: why the junior engineer is disappearing0:40 What this episode covers1:40 Welcome: Cloë Stanbridge, Talent Lead at Airtree1:56 A day in the life of a VC talent lead2:10 Investing from pre-seed to growth stage2:57 How talent gets involved at each stage4:15 What makes a founder an "outlier"5:02 Hiring the first few engineers5:48 Case study: scaling a young founder's team7:39 When a technical founder gets pulled in every direction9:01 Hiring junior engineers in the age of AI11:03 Why "junior" now means doing mid-level work12:05 The fear of hiring someone more senior than you13:02 When founders step back into R&D13:32 Zero-to-one vs. scaling personalities14:08 Inside Airtree's Frontiers program15:24 Why engineers are leaving big companies to found startups15:57 Retention, ESOP, and leaner teams16:45 Why managers now need to be hands-on architects17:25 Why no job is safe from redundancy anymore18:39 The squeeze on middle management19:34 Hiring people leaders too late21:34 What actually keeps people "sticky"21:58 Leadership lessons from Brené Brown and Kim Scott22:41 Embedding inside scale-ups at The Lab1725:15 Setting a new hire up to succeed, or fail27:49 How the market flipped after COVID28:21 When a huge engineer salary is worth it31:08 Competing with Silicon Valley salaries31:37 How Linktree built culture as a differentiator32:52 Cash versus flexibility in a cost-of-living crisis33:40 Being upfront about the grind before they sign35:20 Remote work and the culture question36:55 Why go-to-market matters more than ever37:46 Expanding into the US market40:10 Do founders have to relocate for funding?41:34 Bringing Australian talent back home42:36 From 60 to 350: scaling at SafetyCulture47:04 Why recruiters need to know "their dog's name"47:46 Being a thought partner, not a salesperson48:47 Hiring for potential over a checklist50:39 Why problem-solving beats a technical checklist51:47 How AI is changing technical interviews53:38 Trial days: hiring by actually working together55:25 Screening out "AI slop" in applications56:21 Spotting an AI-written cover letter57:34 Using AI without losing the human element57:52 Where voice agents fit and where they don't58:39 The AI tools Cloë uses to research candidates59:25 Cloë's top 3 AI skills for recruiting1:00:45 James's AI-powered morning brief1:01:58 Wrap-up and thanks1:02:11 James's takeaways from the episodeAbout the GuestCloë Stanbridge is Talent Lead at Airtree, where she partners with the firm's portfolio to connect founders with top talent, build scalable hiring processes, and develop playbooks that support sustainable growth. Before Airtree, she spent over four years at The Lab17, embedding inside scaling companies including Linktree and Immutable to build out their hiring practices, and led talent through a hypergrowth stretch at SafetyCulture, taking the engineering team from around 60 people to 350 in two years.LinksCloë Stanbridge · Airtree · LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cloestanbridge/James MacDonald — LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-macdonald-au/NTP Talent: https://ntptalent.com.au/Day One: https://dayone.fm/Hosted by James MacDonald, Managing Director of NTP Talent.Building Tech Teams is produced by Day One®, trusted partners in the technology space and the production partner behind Blackbird Ventures' Wild Hearts. Sister shows include First Cheque, Oversubscribed and In The Blink of AI. Episodes are cross-promoted across the network.