Een goed gesprek over de lobby achter de boerenoproer, met prof. dr. Beatrice de Graaf (https://www.uu.nl/medewerkers/badegraaf) en prof. dr. ir. C.M. Martijn van der Heide. (https://www.rug.nl/staff/c.m.van.der.heide/) * Luister ook Jortcast #484 (Beatrice de Graaf) en #485 (Martijn van der Heide).
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