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Dig It with Jo Whiley and Zoe Ball

95: DIG IN: Sibling Rivalry and Friendship Fallouts

25 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the signs of sibling favoritism?

0.031 - 27.27 Jo Whiley

coming up on dig it people let you down it's what happens in life yeah we make mistakes we let our friends down because we're human and we're daft it's like you have responsibility why are you throwing that on the floor thinking that someone else is going to come along pick it up it's just it's not on it's not right it's not on and i was just sort of looking at the sky thinking mum they're doing great and be so proud and you know she's watching over them you know she really is but boy do we miss her

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He's your favourite child, isn't he? And the kids were laughing and she just went, well, yes. All of that right after this.

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72.757 - 74.439 Zoe Ball

I sold my car in Carvana last night.

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Well, that's cool.

75.22 - 81.069 Zoe Ball

No, you don't understand. It went perfectly. Real offer, down to the penny. They're picking it up tomorrow. Nothing went wrong.

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So, what's the problem?

82.952 - 86.117 Zoe Ball

That is the problem. Nothing in my life goes to smoothly. I'm waiting for the catch.

Chapter 2: How do you handle feeling let down by friends?

344.259 - 364.438 Jo Whiley

And I remember being in a restaurant with some friends and some friends of theirs, and they were really squabbling. And it just happened that the lass I was sat next to, she was really lovely. She was a child psychologist. And I was getting quite wound up by them. And she went, no, no, they're just vying for your attention. And the more attention you give, the more they're going to do it.

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364.458 - 383.603 Jo Whiley

She went, just stick in all of them. They'll sort it out. And she's like, so the squabbling will be, because it's survival, isn't it? You know, if you think of animals and stuff, the noisiest or the one with the most attention will, you know, and often the weakest, the quietest one will just get left behind. Literally with animals would be left behind. So it's vying for attention.

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And actually the thing that I love is, and you've got it with your kids, as they grow older,

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the squabbling becomes more sort of sort of ribbing each other is quite fun and they can all handle it but boy they are there for each other aren't they oh absolutely they really are they are at each other's sides the minute one of them needs love and support and you know that's kind of what you want for your kids And where are you in, you know, were there favourite kids in your household?

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411.741 - 429.587 Jo Whiley

I think different parents had different favourite children in my situation, I think. And definitely with grandparents, I have noticed that there will be grandchildren who are always talked about. And you're like, oh, don't mention the other one.

430.867 - 456.132 Jo Whiley

you know it's like teachers though isn't it teachers always have a favorite student you're like oh teachers pet yeah indy came for a sleepover on sunday night and it was just so lovely because she misses the others so much talking about siblings yeah um now that she's in her big house on her own and with her partner which she said when she walked into that she was like oh my god i'd forgotten how chaotic it was in this house it's like so chaotic and i just go back to my house mine and alex and it's just calm

456.112 - 474.138 Jo Whiley

And we just do what we want to do. Whereas you walk into here and it's just like this flipping chaos, carnival going on all the time. But she really loved it. And we all sat and watched TV and then went to bed. And they did this whole routine in the bathroom, you know, brushing their teeth together and going sitting on each other's beds. And it was just so, so lovely. And she just lay in bed.

474.158 - 492.386 Jo Whiley

She was like, I just miss them so much. I just miss being with them and having those little in jokes. And it was how fantastic that she comes back again. And she wants to be in the house and we had a sleepover together and it was just, it was lovely. I really, really liked it. You're so lucky your house is so busy. I know, I know. Mine's so quiet.

492.526 - 508.124 Jo Whiley

It's like, oh, it's less and less because Nell's based more at her dad's now because I think she's got to that point of... Oh, can I just be in one place? Because all her CSI revision notes are on the wall at her dad's and it's like just not having to move from house to house. So she just is spending more time there now.

Chapter 3: What humorous stories illustrate sibling rivalry?

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Have you?

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Would I do that? Probably not. Probably just bitch to all my friends and then wait for it to pass. Yeah, Nia, I'd probably stew on it for a little while and then just eventually it'll come good again. If she's a good enough friend and if you really love each other, which I think you probably do, you'll come back together. And if you don't, it's fine.

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829.37 - 838.3 Jo Whiley

We had a very funny conversation all about Jackie magazine after reading the Jackie annual, which was so much fun. And Mark has got in touch.

838.62 - 858.081 Mark

Hello, lovely ladies. It's Mark here from Northumberland. I was listening to your show the other day and you were talking about Jackie magazine and reading the photo spreads. Well, I was very fortunate to appear as a model in a couple of those spreads. Oh, Mark. And I was about 14 at the time.

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Oh, my God.

Chapter 4: How can you effectively communicate feelings of disappointment?

1187.292 - 1214.422 Jo Whiley

As my friend Heather would say, packet of quavers, because it's a great Peter Kay line. packet of gravers, which is those strange coincidences and those signs. I know in my logical head, it was just a coincidence, but in my heart, it was like he was sending me a hello, just like the little toy donkey Zoe. These moments are so special and carry us through the grief. Vicky, that is so magical.

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And your memories of your gorgeous Chris, he is always with you. Honestly, it breaks your heart, doesn't it, for her to lose a boy. That's so tough. I have no doubt there was something special. So there's something magical again, magic happening in that. I mean, what are the chances of me saying that?

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Finally, we have another caller on the rant hotline. We want to push this. So anybody, you know, there's quite a lot of rage inside us. There's a lot to rant about. And we want to hear from you, please. But this one is from Melanie, who's actually come up with a jingle. What? What?

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1245.997 - 1283.781 Melanie

Well, hello, Jo and Zoe. It's Melanie here. I'm a bit behind with the episodes. However, I did listen this morning to The Busy Bitch Corner. Oh, what a great idea. I also might have a little jingle for the phone number. I'll just get into rhythm. Anyway, you can delete that bit if you like. However, I have got a rant. People dropping litter. And the people dropping litter isn't even kids.

1284.362 - 1309.155 Melanie

Not that we should forgive kids for dropping litter, but it is adults. And the worst thing, the cigarettes. They smoke them and then they just throw them on the ground. I mean, seriously, it makes my blood boil. If I see it, I want to go up to them, tap them on the shoulder and say, excuse me, pick that up and put it in the bin.

1309.916 - 1322.694 Melanie

And also proper grown up humans sitting in their car, eating takeaways. They open the door. And then they throw the rubbish on the floor. Oh, my God. It makes my blood boil.

1322.934 - 1323.615 Jo Whiley

I'm with you, Melanie.

1323.635 - 1334.671 Melanie

Anyway, thanks for listening to that. And again, that little jingle again. 0747 7038795. Bye.

Chapter 5: What role do grandparents play in perceived favoritism?

1522.398 - 1530.693 Jo Whiley

So I'm going to go and give my voice a rest. My tongue is killing me. So I'm going to find some zinc, do some mouthwash. And thanks so much, Diggers, for getting in touch.

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Anybody has anything you want to share, if you want to go on the rant hotline, if you have any stories you want to share or anything we've talked about that has meant something to you that you'd like to talk about further, just get in touch. You can find out how by going to the show notes. And we wish you a glorious week. Hope you're all fine and dandy. And we'll see you next time. Take care. Bye.

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Bye.

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