SLEEP SPECIAL: Rethink Your Sleep With Dr Lindsay Browning
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All of that right after this.
Today's guest is an expert in all things sleep. Dr. Lindsey Browning is a chartered psychologist, neuroscientist, and author, and holds a doctorate in insomnia from the University of Oxford, UK. It's fair to say she really knows her stuff.
She joins us with her unparalleled knowledge and advice to help you get a better night's sleep, covering everything from sleep and hormones, how our sleep changes with age, and whether scrolling at night is really as bad as we think.
Welcome Dr. Lindsay Browning. So Lindsay, I'm fascinated to know why did you study sleep or the lack of it?
Sure. Well, I did a degree in psychology, a degree in neuroscience and a doctorate specifically studying and treating insomnia. And I didn't go into it because I had a particular difficulty with sleep. But when I was studying insomnia, I met so many people who massively struggled with their sleep and I realised what a huge issue it is. And then that was 20 years ago. And I've just been working in the world of sleep, helping people ever since, just because it's such an important issue.
Do we worry too much about sleep, do you think, as a nation, as people?
So 20 years ago, sleep wasn't something people worried about. Sleep was something that people kind of boasted about how little they got. And over the last five to 10 years, especially, people have really embraced how important sleep is, which from my point of view is fantastic because sleep is so massively important. But along with that has come kind of the other side, which is almost an obsession with sleep and a worry about sleep. And the more information we learn about how important sleep is, the more that some people can get suddenly really stressed and concerned and thinking, oh, my goodness, my sleep isn't good enough. If I don't sleep well, I'm going to get dementia, diabetes, heart disease, all this stuff that then they're so stressed about their sleep that paradoxically they start having insomnia and not sleeping because they've put such pressure on themselves.
So it's a real balancing act. Yes, we want to explain to people that sleep is fantastic and that you should care about it, but not to worry them so much that it sends them off into a spiral that makes them start not sleeping because they're so worried about it.
Lindsay, why is sleep important? And is there an ideal amount of sleep for people?
So it's really important, I think, that people understand that sleep is really individual because eight hours gets banded a lot. I read that in loads of magazines, newspapers. Now, according to science, and loads of research happens, that for a working age adult, so someone 18 to 64, their Goldilocks zone is somewhere between seven to nine hours. So that means people who sleep somewhere from seven to nine hours tend to be the healthiest. They tend to have the best longevity. They tend to be happier. So sort of that's the kind of the window we want to kind of aim for. That doesn't mean it's a strict limit. And there are people who will need a little bit less than that and some people who might need a little bit more than that.
But as long as you're in that range and you're feeling good and you're making it through the day without fatigue and needing to have naps, then that's probably enough for you, whether that's nearer seven hours or whether that's nearer nine. There isn't one number that's right for everyone.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–6:20
2
Who is Dr Lindsay Browning and why study insomnia?
6:20–14:02
3
How much sleep do adults really need and what is the ‘Goldilocks’ zone?
14:02–18:08
4
What daytime habits boost nighttime sleep (daylight, activity, stress)?
18:08–26:36
5
How do hormones and menopause specifically disrupt sleep and what practical fixes help?
26:36–35:28
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