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Harry Sisson: Charlie Kirk’s Breaking Point with Trump. What He Won’t Say on Stage | DSH #1591
27 Oct 2025
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
war has only in my view gotten worse under donald trump i mean there's no end in sight in the middle east he said he'd end ukraine in 24 hours we're now on like what day 175 of his presidency there is no conclusion and he's still obviously doing everything he did in the middle east from beforehand drone strikes and whatnot so i think he's back down on virtually every major promise he made
Look at his approval ratings. They're like in the 30s. And I just, you know, it's funny to sit here because during Biden's presidency, look at Biden's poll numbers. Now we're in the same situation with Trump. He's in low 40s, high 30s in terms of approval rating. You know, MAGA is turning on him with the whole Epstein thing. They're kind of more unified now, I think, than the beginning.
Chapter 2: What are Donald Trump's broken promises during his presidency?
But nonetheless, he's lost a lot of support, a lot of respect. I think it's politics isn't meant to be fun, but I think it's the most fun, most entertaining part of politics for me.
Okay, guys, got him back on the show. Audience favorite.
Chapter 3: How does canceling mRNA research impact cancer treatment?
Audience favorite, huh? Yeah, you got some interesting comments on the last one. Were they positive or negative? I mean, my audience is mainly conservative.
I see. You can make the assumption I'm not.
I can imagine. But no, I love how you stand your ground.
I appreciate that. I respect that. Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, obviously I'm very opinionated online. You know, if a conservative wants to debate, I'm happy to do that, but I'm not going to be like, oh, you know, you're right, or shy away. You know, you've got to stand your ground on these things. And I think they're important issues that we talk about.
I mean, you're debating, what, six hours a day on average? It's crazy.
Sometimes, sometimes. I mean, I think since the election, I've reduced my debate time pretty substantially over a month-long period. But I still love debating. I still love getting into it. I think it's, you know, politics isn't meant to be fun, but I think it's the most fun, most entertaining part of politics for me. Yeah. So I don't know, but it's fun. It's all right.
I feel like there's a momentum shift towards the left right now with how Trump's been doing. I'm going to be honest. I'm on the right.
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Chapter 4: What role does AI play in early cancer diagnosis?
You know that. But I think he's losing some people.
Oh, dude, look at his approval ratings. They're like in the 30s. And I just, you know, it's funny to sit here because during Biden's presidency, I'm sure you paid attention to the polls and you saw that Biden's approval rating wasn't great. Near the end, yeah. Yeah. And Republicans would say, well, look at Biden's, you know, poll numbers. Now we're in the same situation with Trump.
He's in low 40s, high 30s in terms of approval rating. You know, MAGA is turning on him with the with the whole Epstein thing. They're kind of more unified now, I think, than the beginning. But nonetheless, he's lost a lot of support, a lot of respect. I mean, even from folks like yourself, you know, who lean more conservative. So and he's kind of doing it to himself.
It's not I would argue that a lot of the people, a lot of the things that hurt Biden's presidency were out of his control. Yeah. You know, like October 7th with Israel or Ukraine, Russia being invaded, like the president can't control that stuff. Whereas Donald Trump, he could release the Epstein files right now. He's choosing not to, you know.
You think they even exist, honestly?
Yeah, 100%. I think, I mean, we got reports that the FBI combed through over 100,000 documents related to Epstein. They specifically redacted Donald Trump's name, were instructed to redact Donald Trump's name. And I know there are some great independent journalists right now who are working to get the instruction videos on how to redact Trump's name, like the DOJ, the FBI.
They sent out to all the agents who are going through these documents. It's like instruction video. And so we're trying to get that. But yeah, I think the documents exist and I think he's implicated in some way.
You saw they subpoenaed the, was it the Clintons last week? Yeah. What was that about? Was that for the Epstein stuff?
Yeah, it's Epstein stuff. It's just political theater. I think the Republicans are doing that to try to shift the focus from Trump to Democrats to make it seem as if Bill Clinton was better friends with Epstein. The entire Democratic Party position on this is that if Bill Clinton did something bad with Epstein, like arrest, I don't care, hold him accountable, right? Yeah.
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Chapter 5: How is the U.S. healthcare system failing its citizens?
And just throughout, I can give you so many other examples. But, you know, Putin was in the KGB. He's known as a master manipulator. And Donald Trump is going into that meeting either alone or with people who have no foreign policy experience. So I'm not hopeful for that meeting with Putin on Friday.
What did you think of Tulsi exposing Russiagate, I guess, saying that Obama planned that and that Trump actually wasn't talking with Russia?
Did you see that? Oh, I did see that. Yeah. I mean, it's all a distraction from the Epstein files. The awful thing about what Tulsi Gabbard has done is she's just completely... she's framed the story incorrectly.
Chapter 6: What is the significance of misinformation in politics?
She's misrepresented, strawmanned the Democratic position, which is, the claim has never been that Donald Trump spoke with Putin on the phone and was like, hey, I need you to switch ballots or anything like that. The claim was, and still is, via the intelligence community, the FBI, the DOJ, a bipartisan group of senators, which,
by the way, Marco Rubio, his current secretary of state was on, they conducted this investigation. They all came to the conclusion that Russia interfered in the election via like social media, via hacking the DNC and releasing emails connected to Clinton via even faking emails, making it seem that like Hillary Clinton approved a plan to tie Trump to Putin.
It just came out that those emails were fake and everybody thought they were real. Yeah. So no, it's just, they, it's so obvious that that story that, mis-framing of what the intelligence community has been claiming is to distract away from the Epstein files. And I would argue that it really badly failed. I think people are still focused on Epstein.
I'll be honest. If they don't release some sort of info on that, I don't think they'll win 28.
Really?
I think it's that bad, dude.
Really?
People on the right really care.
I mean, you talk to people, I think, on the right in the content creation space certainly more than I do. Is that the vibe that you're getting?
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Chapter 7: How are political debates shaping the current landscape?
Dude, I love Gavin Newsom. I know that's like a hot take. I think a lot of conservatives, right-leaning people don't. But I love the way that Newsom's just giving him... the same energy back. Have you seen on the past couple of days, he's like tweeting like Trump now? Yeah. He follows something, right? Yeah. It's so funny, dude.
No, but I think Gavin Newsom with everything he's doing to combat Trump is, I would argue, one of the front runners for Democrats.
Yeah. I've never seen someone stand up the way he has. I'll say that.
Yeah. I mean, I think there are very few Democrats doing what he's doing, which is surprising and disappointing. You would think that a lot of Democrats would view this moment as a time to really stand up, and even if you want to do it from a personal brand standpoint, increase your political capital.
But a lot of them aren't doing it, or at least they're not doing it in a way that's resonating with people. They're scared, I think, right? I think a lot of people are scared. I think a lot of people are scared, which is kind of terrifying. In America, whether you're a Democrat, Republican, you shouldn't be nervous to stand up to the president of the United States.
And I think, you know, people who watch your show, you and whatnot, are probably disagree with Biden. But I don't think that anybody was nervous about criticizing Biden during his presidency.
I'll say on the vaccine stuff.
Yes.
And the what was the other thing that was a J6 you couldn't talk about without getting banned or something?
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Chapter 8: What insights can we gain from the recent political controversies?
Just putting it on your radar and Facebook or whatever platform it is, they can delete it if they want. But there's no pressure from the government. The government can't force them to do that.
Interesting. So it's more like a guidance approach.
Yeah, I mean, and I and I, I don't personally I know I think it's perfectly fine to disagree with me, but I don't have a problem with that. You know, if if You know, this board of experts at the CDC or whatever it is and saying, hey, this misinformation is really hampering our effort to save lives.
I have no problem with the government reaching out and saying, hey, Facebook, Instagram, we just want to let you know that we have intel or we've gathered something that indicates that a lot of this misinformation is coming from your platform. I have no problem with them saying, do you want to, like, I don't know, tackle this in some way. But I know some people do.
They think it's government overreach. And I think it's fair to disagree.
Yeah. So you don't think it's overreach if they're like kind of guiding them, but if they actually do it themselves, then I would consider that overreach.
Yeah, I mean, I don't have any problem with guidance. I understand that, you know, especially as digital and the digital space grows, there's this like very fine line between, you know, what's the public sphere and what's not. And so as social media grows, I think it's becoming more of like the town square. So I understand that there's like the very fine line, but
I just can't help but think how much misinformation killed people during COVID, for example, that people believe that the vaccine was going to kill them or the vaccine is going to give them a terrible side effect. They're going to grow a third arm or something like that.
It hurts me as an American, somebody that cares about people, to think that so many people could have been saved if they, I don't know, didn't listen to their crazy uncle on Facebook. Speaking of vaccines, you saw what RFK just did? Yeah. Yeah, the canceling of the contracts for Marnie.
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