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Jennelle Gordon & Keith Mitchell: “If You Can’t Master This, You’ll Struggle in Relationships”

18 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What do attraction and stability mean in relationships?

0.031 - 4.3 Sean Kelly

If you had to pick between a really good person at sex or someone with millions, that's tough, right?

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4.32 - 7.187 Jennelle Gordon

Listen, I love first class. I love all the bougie stuff.

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Chapter 2: How are masculine and feminine dynamics explained?

7.207 - 11.897 Jennelle Gordon

But I'm picking a man who can control his ejaculation at will every motherf***ing time.

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11.917 - 13.881 Keith Mitchell

So I'm gonna pick the million dollars first.

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Chapter 3: What happens during relationship retreats?

14.222 - 18.672 Unknown

And then you can go buy a coach. That's a loophole.

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18.692 - 19.373 Keith Mitchell

That's a loophole.

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25.327 - 30.571 Sean Kelly

All right, guys, Digital Social Hour. We are back with Janelle, who's, man, viral every time on the show.

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Chapter 4: Why are tools more important than endless communication?

30.611 - 32.279 Sean Kelly

And she brought her friend today, Keith.

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32.299 - 32.921 Keith Mitchell

All right, pleasure.

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33.203 - 34.83 Sean Kelly

Y'all been working together for a while now, huh?

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35.047 - 47.793 Keith Mitchell

Yes, we have. We have. I met Janelle years ago. I introduced her first to my daughter's mother. I needed some help in our relationship. Okay. And obviously, since it's an ex, it didn't go out so well.

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49.075 - 53.965 Jennelle Gordon

But that wasn't my fault. It wasn't your fault. No, no, no. He met me when I was still in Tantra school.

54.106 - 54.466 Unknown

Okay.

54.486 - 73.867 Jennelle Gordon

Because he used to work... and was very close with Psalm, Isadora, who a lot of people say I resemble when we have some same thing, similar stories. So that's how we met. And then after he brought his daughter's mother, he said, let's do a retreat, you know? And my son was pretty young too.

73.947 - 82.456 Jennelle Gordon

So we did our first one at Pelican Hill, which, you know, bringing Tantra to like Trumpland, where it's like very conservative, that was a pretty bold move.

82.476 - 90.576 Keith Mitchell

Very conservative. Yeah. We had the media. The media came out. The whole newspaper deal. Nice. Nice showing. Yeah. In such a conservative place like that.

Chapter 5: What rules should you establish for intimacy and relationships?

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2824.889 - 2844.571 Jennelle Gordon

He's in the NFL for a decade. He's about to be inducted. So he had a rule book for what you did, right? I had a rule book for this. There's a rule book for giving birth. There's a rule book for podcasting. Why is there not a rule book for intimacy and sex? We created it. But we want you to also create that in your own relationship. So it's like your Ten Commandments of your relationship.

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2844.651 - 2863.435 Jennelle Gordon

And it's no one else's fucking business. But if you don't have that from the start, you're going to fail. But the other thing you need, according to the Kama Sutra, is you need variety. You need what we call like temple night. And so that's a concept that we take in our relationships, but also... We're integrating into the retreats now because we've done so many. We have enough level ones.

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2864.336 - 2865.498 Jennelle Gordon

We're going to do the level two.

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2865.538 - 2870.586 Keith Mitchell

Yeah, so you can actually showcase some of the things that other people are into that you never thought about.

2870.967 - 2872.81 Jennelle Gordon

Like, give us some examples, Keith.

2872.93 - 2874.132 Keith Mitchell

Shabari.

2874.152 - 2875.354 Jennelle Gordon

Shabari. What's up?

2875.434 - 2876.536 Keith Mitchell

Japanese rope tie.

Chapter 6: How does variety influence intimacy in relationships?

2915.881 - 2917.705 Jennelle Gordon

Yeah. Some Kama Sutra practices.

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2917.745 - 2923.055 Keith Mitchell

Even some sensation play with the flogger. Yeah. Some of the pain, a little bit of pain.

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2923.075 - 2926.581 Jennelle Gordon

So we're going to go into that at the retreat, a little bit of mini BDSM.

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2926.612 - 2945.127 Keith Mitchell

Yeah, because there's a fine line between pleasure and pain, you know? Yeah. And sometimes the pain concept is just unexplored pleasure. It kind of evolves into a pleasure for someone. Yeah. You kind of expand into that. And so people see different things. It's like, oh, well, maybe I'll try that and see what happens.

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2945.107 - 2956.024 Jennelle Gordon

You don't eat the same thing every day. You don't go to the same movie every day. You don't listen to the same music every day. You don't go to the same vacation every day. People would say you're boring and predictable. Why are you having sex the same way every day?

2956.044 - 2956.565 Unknown

Same position.

2956.705 - 2965.459 Jennelle Gordon

Missionary with the lights off over three minutes. She's all sappy. He's mad at you because you are killing him. The end. Yeah. It repeats.

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Yeah.

2965.643 - 2967.767 Sean Kelly

Relatable, sadly, but yeah.

Chapter 7: What practices enhance connection and fulfillment in relationships?

2982.92 - 2985.525 Keith Mitchell

That's what keeps us alive. That's what makes life worth it.

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2985.505 - 3000.385 Jennelle Gordon

This is a great question. When, like with certain women, you want your man to feel filled up when he's done making love with you, not depleted. Because if you're having sex and you're not practicing semen retention, you're feeling depleted.

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3000.405 - 3001.407 Unknown

Oh yeah, knockout.

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3001.487 - 3006.374 Jennelle Gordon

You're done. Even if you had a great time and it was pleasurable, in the next, when you wake up, you've forgotten about it.

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3006.394 - 3008.737 Sean Kelly

I don't know how guys do back-to-backs, like for real.

3009.257 - 3010.259 Jennelle Gordon

Well, Keith can show you.

3010.459 - 3014.044 Sean Kelly

You got to teach me that. Some guys do like three. It's insane to me.

3014.142 - 3017.291 Jennelle Gordon

Yeah, I mean, it's just controlling. I mean, Keith is the man.

3017.632 - 3021.764 Sean Kelly

Well, he's not finishing, so that makes sense, right? I'm saying guys that finish can go again.

Chapter 8: How do energy dynamics affect sexual relationships?

3040.031 - 3045.922 Keith Mitchell

So that keeps you in the game like that. And my teacher, he was 86 when I was his last child.

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3046.423 - 3047.625 Sean Kelly

He was having sex at 86?

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3047.605 - 3048.967 Keith Mitchell

Dr. Sebi.

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3049.067 - 3052.35 Sean Kelly

Dr. Sebi was your teacher? No, I had his grandson on the show.

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3052.37 - 3059.939 Keith Mitchell

Dr. Sebi was my teacher. And I'm like, I don't want to have kids at 86, but I still want to be in the game. That dude's a legend.

3059.959 - 3062.521 Jennelle Gordon

I always say this is like Dr. Sebi Jr. Yeah.

3062.782 - 3064.363 Keith Mitchell

I've been to his home like 25 times.

3064.384 - 3074.815 Sean Kelly

Wow. Wow. That's awesome. You got to learn from him. That dude changed the world. Changed the game. Yeah, he changed the game. I know him mainly for the diet stuff. I didn't know he touched on this stuff too, though.

3074.855 - 3083.042 Keith Mitchell

It was just his lifestyle. He had 22 kids. 22. Yeah, so at 86, he had a two-year-old, and his oldest was 60.

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